nah, i wouldn't feel comfortable taking it...still don't have an S5LE, and I would go Kydex as well. Good luck to the other dogs in the Yard though! And....thanks to you for passing on the love <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />