Great stuff everyone - making me think of things that I need to add and think about. This is going to be fairly random and jumbled: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

A generator would be an excellent thing. So would some fuel cans. Too bad my Explorer is enclosed - I wouldn't really be able to keep fuel in ther without keeping all of the windows open - no point in trying to protect the family and then kill them all w/ gas fumes!

The biggest issue that I think I'd have in a hypothetical urban warfare kind of scenario (I'd be getting to the woods ASAP though) would be fuel. I've got everything that I could possibly need for extended survival in my truck, but once its out of gas, the camp is rather permanent!

I'm really excited about getting the M4 upper for my AR - it'll really round out my firearms. In my assault kit, after some thought, I'd be more likely to have my Glock 9mm w/ the 17rnd mags than my 1911 w/ the 8rnd mags.

Here's a question for you guys. How long is water good for in a sealed and sterile container? I've had my current 7 or 8 gallons of water in the back of my truck for about 4 months - time to change it? I've drank water from canteens that was 3-4 months old, but never older than that. Just curious.

I think that my heavy barrel 7.62x39 upper with my 9x scope should be good out to at least 600m at a man sized target. I know that 7.62x39 isn't great at long distances, but it has a great takedown to $$ ratio!!

Anyways, great stuff guys. This summer, I plan on going through all of my stuff and making sure that its good to go. I may have more of a "winter" and "summer" packing list like we had in the Army, but I'd always at least have the basics for all seasons. As my A-hole First Sergeant used to say... "It might be summer now, but if we go to war, it'll be winter before we come home."

This summer I plan on taking a number of 2-3 day camping trips (gotta schedule those around my wife's weekends off of work... or else its me an the 2 year old!). Going to work on the basic survival skill stuff... firecraft, water collection, traps, impovised fishing, etc. Should be a blast.

Thanks again for all of the tips, and Stan - great idea for a thread topic!


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