That last pic reminds me the time this last year when sf45acp and I were out in muzzleloading season. A horrible chain of events led to us chasing a deer that I had shot the leg off of through the woods and into a creek. Fording the icy waters in our hunting clothes we each took turns shivving the beast with the War Dog until we were able to hit its lungs. We backed out and let nature and the freezing water take its course. One of the roughest workouts hunting I've ever had, that's for sure. Strangely, that's NOT the first time I've had to kill a deer in hand-to-hand combat <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />