I am all over the 460. I have been testing the Spyderco Elmax mule. It has been doing well in the small amount I have done so far. Made well over 100, probably more like 200 cuts in cardboard. Was still easily push cutting phonebook paper. The Spyderco Elmax is averaging 58-59RC, which is Bohler's recommended hardness for a good mix of toughness and edge retention. However, with this bad boy being ground so thin I think the higher RC will be fantastic.