Thom- a safe-queen a user and a user for 'Sundays', I'm not seeing the problem! As for the warranty if anyone does manage to total one of these tanks then they did something amazingly stupid or 'desperate measures'! These knives make continents look flimsy.. (I did say 'ever manage to terminally damage the user'). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />