what part of up state newyork...... watertown. i have s friend in the area and will se him in a few days. just go to some place and get a $20 gerber or buck...... if you are spending a few nights or a week there then they will work fine but then you have no real money loss if you cant get it home.

Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138