Gee I just happened to get one in the mail today that looks a lot like that 2nd one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It's a great sheath and it fits both my satin RMD. The retention is perfect and it's rattle proof. I've never seen anything like it and I love it! Thanks James great job! I like the looks of the top one a lot. Might have to talk to the post office see if they can put one of those in my box <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />