That is exactly why they can't have it, we had to cut the camelpack logo off our ...camelbacks. The military can't endorse or support and name brand items. Even though EVERYONE knew what brand everything was....that's the military for you....still affecting me even after I am out <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />