YUP. But way I look at it (of course I am biased in Patty's favor) he is younger and they are HIS kids. His responsibility first.

You are right
On that

But Patty is scared to death that if she doesn't do what he wants, WHEN he wants it, he'll stop letting her see the Grandkids.

And the sad thing is, I think that he would maybe do it if he got mad enough.

That is just plain wrong

I agree. When She left her first husband and filed for divorce he gave her a cussing on our front porch like I have never heard before in my life. The only reason there wasn't a fight that day is because She knew he was coming and made me promise her I would stay inside NO MATTER WHAT HE SAID. It took him over a year to get over that. AND at the time he was married to his first wife and lived in a different town.

Pauline's brothers and sister is like that
They punished her parents with their kids

I Guess I am incapable of thinking that way. Some things you just don't do.

Same here
Thing is that they always came back when they needed something

OH Yeah. Never failed.

And you never swear at your parents

NOPE! You may think it, but you NEVER say it out loud.