Oh yeah to answer your question: reguardless of the wording I will take my AR15 if I am going to be mobile. I can carry twice as much ammo with less weight and I am not restricted to FMJ ammo like the military is. Mine is loaded with bonded core softpoints and I think that raises the bar a good bit in DEFENSIVE ranges. Besides my Bushmaster with C-more sight or irons flat out shoots!

Sportsmans Guide had Ruger factory 20 rd mags on sale recently.

Thanks Vic-I can't say that I have ever seen them sell a "factory" mag. Gonna have to look closer.

Correction: It wasn't Sportsman's Guide; it was the new Cheaper Than Dirt Catalog, page 28. "Original Ruger production factory magazine holds 20 rounds of .223 ammo. ..." Problem is they want $50 a piece for them.

I hope ruger has improved the mini 14......from what I remember, you could only hit the broad side of the bard.......if you threw the gun itself at the barn. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

That is about right, Bramel. I did manage to get ONE that would shoot 2 MOA, but most were spray and pray at 5 to 6 MOA. My current one with the ARS heavy barrel is about 1 MOA. Ruger has redone the Mini-14 series and reports I get from shooters is that they are much more accurate.

Gheaper Than Dirt's got some cool stuff! I've got some stuff from them a few times. Their shipping cost can be a killer though... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I hope I can eventually make it to the Knob Creek thing up in Kentucky and see some of this type stuff in action... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Battlerifle=.30 cal semi or bolt action
Assault rifle= smaller round for more controlled recoil, optimised for 400 metres or less fighting, also has the significant advantage of much more rounds per pound.

Being able to carry 3 times the cartridges as the M14 as well as a controllable full auto made the M16 the better choice.

The israeli hit teams use local capture AK's because they sound like the locals weapons and don't invite the reaction a M16 would.

My choice of a battlerifle instead of an assualt weapon is because of the terrain
and a very strict 5 round per mag limit for most rifles. There are few exceptions but one of them is the 10 rounder allowed for the Enfield which is my personal choice. Another is a Garand is allowed 8.

I would love a semi M14 clone called the Norinco M 305. They are in most people I know who have both a better gun than the Springfield and only cost 400$ to the Springfields 1000+$.

This is a very basic M305 build like I would do.


They make a great 600 metres or less sniper rifle or hunting rifle.


Sage style builds are getting popular but I find them fugly. I do love a nice Socom build all pimped out with a cool Trijicon or other nice site it's still cheaper than the bare cheapest Springfield.

Another rifle I want is a nice SKS with bayonet and a pallet of 7.62/39.

C-products are suppose to start making mini-14 mags sometime this year.They should be affordable and reliable.

If your going to knob Creek....why don't you swing by and pick me up. I'd like to go too.