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|  5160 VS. A2 ??
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09/24/07 03:52 PM |  
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SPEICHERJoined:  Nov 2006 Posts: 68  OP Pooch |  
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In a 91/2" bowie style blade, which would you folks recommend for overall best performance (keen edge holding ability is a major concern of mine).
 Thanks.
 
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: SPEICHER]
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09/24/07 04:01 PM |  
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ZeroNineJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 1,607   Junk Yard Dog |  
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A true friend will help you move a body!"
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: ZeroNine]
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09/24/07 04:13 PM |  
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greensJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 401   Mongrel |  
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5160 spring steel for that size blade. |  |  |  
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: greens]
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09/24/07 04:20 PM |  
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Magnum22Joined:  Dec 2006 Posts: 18,009   Junk Yard Dog |  
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5160's cheap.  i dunno what A2 costs. 
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: Magnum22]
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09/24/07 05:12 PM |  
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RainwalkerJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 8,297   Junk Yard Dog |  
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5160, but their both very good if treated right. 
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: Rainwalker]
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09/24/07 05:28 PM |  
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WhichDawgJoined:  Mar 2007 Posts: 15,885   Junk Yard Dog |  
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5160, it's a beast, I beat the heck outta my RD7 (chopping, batoning, zombie quartering) and the edge stayed sharp. 
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: WhichDawg]
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09/24/07 05:35 PM |  
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dicemanJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 9,858   Junk Yard Dog |  
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My Rangers have stayed very sharp, and are extremely easy to sharpen.  It stains easily.  Thats my only negative comment, even though I don't care about looks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />  Haven't had any issues w/ pitting, but I'm a stickler for keeping my knives wiped down so they haven't really been exposed to extended neglect (although they're abused when I take them out!) 
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: diceman]
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09/24/07 07:34 PM |  
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pitmanJoined:  Jan 2007 Posts: 2,795   Junk Yard Dog |  
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I would go with A2 if edge holding ability is your main concern but if you are going to be doing a lot of chopping and battoning then I'd go for 5160 !!! |  |  |  
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: pitman]
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09/24/07 07:51 PM |  
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Paul the Brit'Joined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 4,489   Junk Yard Dog |  
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SR77, accept no imitations! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> 
 
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: diceman]
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09/24/07 07:55 PM |  
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KnifeGuyJoined:  Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943   Junk Yard Dog |  
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"Generally" for a blade around 9.5" or for any blade intended to be used as a chopper or take similar abuse, I would take 5160.However, it probably comes down to what you intend to do with the knife.
 If chopping and similar extreme abuse - 5160
 If not chopping, I really like A2.
 
 For most blades under 6" and maybe in and around 6" - 6.5" or so, I would most likely prefer A2.
 
 In both cases for A2 & 5160 (and most if not all steels for that matter) the quality of the heat treatment is still very important.
 
 I don't think you can judge steel quality by composition and name alone. Heat treatment is crucial to any given steel performing well.
 
 I am not an expert on Justin/Ranger knives, but Justin is clearly developing and apparently earning a good reputation for his heat-treatments based on the toughness and performance of his knives.
 That said, I have generally noticed a lower than industry average for Justin's fit and finish.
 
 But, if you want a tough, beater knife at a great price that you can work on and work with, Justin's knives seem pretty hard to beat for the money. - Unless compared to Scrap Yard SR-77.
 
 Swamp Rat would be a step up in price, fit and finish in my book. But, SR-101 (aka 52100) isn't likely any tougher than 5160 - probably comparable - not sure - might be close. ?????
 
 *** If you are looking for tough, SR-77 is tougher than either!!!  <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />  <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />
 
 In any event, Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard both have a life-time warranty against breakage. So, Toughness is plenty tough enough.
 
 A2 makes an awesome smaller to midsized knife. For edge holding and ease of maintenance, I would take A2 over 5160 in a smaller to mid-sized knife.
 
 SR-101 (52100) from Swamp Rat is a great steel for most sizes. It may not be as tough as SR-77, but it is plenty tough and holds an edge better. But, Sr-77 costs less.
 
 
 .....then there's INFI. - If you can afford it, INFI is obviously great stuff.
 
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: pitman]
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09/24/07 08:14 PM |  
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LeatherfaceJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 1,743   Junk Yard Dog |  
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I would go with A2 if edge holding ability is your main concern but if you are going to be doing a lot of chopping and battoning then I'd go for 5160 !!! yuppers there we go!! I LOVE to make knives from 5160 and the 2 monster choppers I am currently working on are being ground from 5160 D |  |  |  
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|  Re: 5160 VS. A2 ??
[Re: Leatherface]
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09/24/07 08:29 PM |  
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SPEICHERJoined:  Nov 2006 Posts: 68  OP Pooch |  
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Thanks for all the replies...still havnt quite made up my mind, but I have some great options. 
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