None-the-less Unsub, whatever the cost, how will users pay for legal drugs? If like my brother, they can't hold down a job, how can they buy their drugs?

On another topic ( this one at least does not make me sound like your typical airy fairy liberal canadian) I belive that we should not discriminate based on race.
Where I live in Saskatchawan(and I have heard similar stories from those of you in the southern US) I am a second class citizen in my own country because I am nonnative. It has gotten completely out of hand and it is time that we have only 2 types of people legally living in my country. Citizens with all the same rights and freedoms and for people who want to come here and work but do not want to assimilate they should be allowed work visas.

If your only interest in being in north america is because you can make money and you want to keep all your language ,culture and don't want to be part of our country why should you have the same rights as someone who wants to be part of our culture ,learn the language and make our country their home.

If you like your culture and language so much that you are unwilling to learn ours then stay in your own [censored] country if it is so great!

Don't come here and expect that we should change our culture. The idiot fanatics in the UK who demand that everyone in their adopted country live under sharia law should be immidiatly sent back.

I saw a protest where illegal immigrants in the US were marching in anger that the police would have the gall to check peoples citizenship and hold them when they cannot prove it when picked up. That seems wrong to me. Do lawbreakers have the right not to be arrested?

If I moved to central america I would expect I would have to learn spanish. Why when they come here do they not have to learn english? How are these people going to assimilate without learning the language?

I would like to see a way for immigrants to earn full citizenship with military service like the French foreign Legion. I think people who earned their citizenship would value it more than someone who stole their way in and had it given as an amnesty like a reward for bad behaviour?

I am tired of people apologizing for being white christian europeans. We acomplished more than anyone else and treated the conquered people far better than they would have treated us had the situation been reversed. Would the axtecs have treated the spanish better if they had conquered spain? There is a huge outcry about canada and the US intering Japanese during WW2 but look what the Japs did to our citizens they captured. I am sick of double standards.

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While not making light of the treatment that western and nonwestern POWs received at the hands of the Japanese during WWII (let alone the civilian populations of the territories that they conquered before and during the war), an important distinction to remember is that the U.S. interred its own CIIZENS based on race/ethnicity. Notably, the U.S. did not intern vast amounts of Italian and German Americans. Just something to remember.

In the U.S., gaining citizenship through military service is a path to citizenship that's been around for a while (don't know exactly how long). It doesn't get much press, but there are members of the armed forces who are not citizens (yes, they get sent into hot zones).

Unsub, I believe the answer to this is that people fundamentally want to eat their cake and then still have it. I also would submit that some of the governments south of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California have a vested interest in having their citizens go abroad and earn money that is sent back home. It relieves the domestic economic pressures, and keeps the citizenry from revolting.

That said, I think that the illegal immigration debate in the U.S. (I can't speak for Canada) is a bit more complex than is presented in the 15 second sound-bites used by the media and politicians.

I think that the US and Canada intering Japanese citizens had less to do with race and more to do with being at war with the country they came from. One major differnce between how the Japanese were treated and how the italian and Germans were treated was partly because the europeans were more assimilated into society than the Japanese. Actually we probably should have looked harder at europeans because there were instances of German americans commiting sabotage that were not discovered until after the war.

Why should we be held to a much higher standard than the Japanese. Sure we intered them but they committed mass murder rape on an industrial scale and slavery and are still denying it happened to this day. That is a insane double standard.
The only reason the Japanese did not get punished for war crimes was people were sick of the Nuremburg trials and most of the victims were communist chinese rather than european jews. More double standards.