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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/02/08 10:59 PM
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Paul the Brit'
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Another thought on INFI and res-C... While I have previously been a strong advocate of a res-C and INFI S7 as the ultimate knife, it occurs to me that sr77 would be just as good- bar a little more surface corrosion. The sr77 S7 would also cost vast amounts less than INFI so 1/ more of us could afford it 2/ at that price you could really use it!
Anyway back to sr101... (The dog doesn't approve of it!) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
[Re: Paul the Brit']
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02/03/08 12:09 AM
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Come on Paul - tell us what you REALLY think of it!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/03/08 02:56 AM
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I have the opposite opinion. I think Scrapyard should release some sr101 blades. Regardless of HD's one test(I looked but have not found it)Sr101 does have much better edge retention than S7 even though whatever Scrapyard does to S7 to make it SR77 really helps. I find SR101 perfect for smaller thinner slicing blades and S7 better for bigger choppers.
I also think it is not Sr77 that defines Scrapyard but the bang for the buck ethos and the use of RES-C. Thats why I want to see a SR101 SS4 maybe even with a thinner blade.
It is as hard to measure steel on a graph as it is to measure a person. Steel seems o have a certain personality that make it suitable for different jobs. SR101/52100 is usually used for ball bearings and S7 for jack hammer bits. Ball bearings need to retain their shape perfectly while jackhammer bits need to be very tough. Because 52100/SR101(I will just call it 52100 from now on) has a personality suited to ball bearings it is also suited to very fine hard edges.
My new Spyderco Mule is 52100 with a very fine edge and thin sharp geometry which makes for one of the sharpest edges I have ever seen.
Through Hardened Battle Rats don't seem to be any less tough than the diff tempered versions.
conclusion- Sr77 can't replace SR101 because they each have jobs they excel at. Sr101 does very fine thin hard edges even better than INFI while S7 excels at tasks that require a lot of impact resistance.
Another great SR101 scrapper would be a Howling dog. A YKCG made of SR101 would make a lot of HR fans happy.
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/03/08 06:09 AM
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Hey, everyone keeps referencing a test done that proved SR77 to be better, It would be really helpful if someone would post up the link to info on that test.
Thanks!
I'm in the "SR77 better for big knives, SR101 better for small knives" camp myself, but that is just from what I've heard. I don't own any dogs myself... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Another advantage that Swamp Rat has... things stay in stock for more than an hour! man, I cannot tell you how annoyingly hard it is to buy a SY knife
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/03/08 07:59 AM
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Paul the Brit'
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Yep I know your pain CloaknDagger, I missed the special offer logo'd little knife recently as I started a new job the morning after the release so couldn't stay up all night to order one! That's the problem of being 5 or 6 hours ahead of the yard..
JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/03/08 10:32 AM
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You HAVE to love the British Bull-Dog !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Junk Yard Dog #1 Moderator/Leader of the Pack Good night Mrs. B, wherever you are! Long Live the Brotherhood of the Yard!
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/03/08 12:15 PM
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Yep I know your pain CloaknDagger, I missed the special offer logo'd little knife recently as I started a new job the morning after the release so couldn't stay up all night to order one! That's the problem of being 5 or 6 hours ahead of the yard.. Did you ever think about running in the opposite direction <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/03/08 12:50 PM
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Yep I know your pain CloaknDagger, I missed the special offer logo'd little knife recently as I started a new job the morning after the release so couldn't stay up all night to order one! That's the problem of being 5 or 6 hours ahead of the yard.. Did you ever think about running in the opposite direction <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ahahah! lol thats was great.
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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I NEVER MISS A release! never! just get the 48 hour notice and cancel all plans for anything going on the day of the release. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Should SR101 be retired?
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02/03/08 12:54 PM
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I have the opposite opinion. I think Scrapyard should release some sr101 blades. Regardless of HD's one test(I looked but have not found it)Sr101 does have much better edge retention than S7 even though whatever Scrapyard does to S7 to make it SR77 really helps. I find SR101 perfect for smaller thinner slicing blades and S7 better for bigger choppers...
I also think it is not Sr77 that defines Scrapyard but the bang for the buck ethos and the use of RES-C. Thats why I want to see a SR101 SS4 maybe even with a thinner blade.
It is as hard to measure steel on a graph as it is to measure a person. Steel seems o have a certain personality that make it suitable for different jobs. SR101/52100 is usually used for ball bearings and S7 for jack hammer bits. Ball bearings need to retain their shape perfectly while jackhammer bits need to be very tough. Because 52100/SR101(I will just call it 52100 from now on) has a personality suited to ball bearings it is also suited to very fine hard edges. conclusion- Sr77 can't replace SR101 because they each have jobs they excel at. Sr101 does very fine thin hard edges even better than INFI while S7 excels at tasks that require a lot of impact resistance.
Another great SR101 scrapper would be a Howling dog. A YKCG made of SR101 would make a lot of HR fans happy. I agree. If Dan scrounged up some SR101 for some YKs or Urban Mutts, it would be fine with me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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