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Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: reconseed] #216335 04/11/08 03:52 PM
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I love Eagle packs. Tough as hell and comfortable. Blackhawk is crap made in china from some cordura imitation called nytaneon or whatever that [censored] is.

Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: greens] #216336 04/13/08 01:55 AM
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I got a nice Blackhawk pack on the way thanks to a great fellow Dog. I am really looking forward to it. I am going to put in a new hydro set up so I can drink while on the quad.


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Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: Unsub] #216337 04/14/08 05:33 AM
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I love Eagle packs. Tough as hell and comfortable. Blackhawk is crap made in china from some cordura imitation called nytaneon or whatever that [censored] is.

everyone has an opinion.

my is that while blackhawk is made in vietnam......not china......it is still a good pack,bottom line.

nytaneon is not a generic form of nylon,it is a corny,hyped up bs name for the nylon they use which is still 1000-D cordura which is all that matters in that field

what is the difference between a eagle and BH 3-day pack other than where its made as far as materials are concerned???they both use 1000-D cordura,National Molding SR buckles and YKK zippers.

the materials are the same but i do admit that the customer service at eagle is probably better and being made in america gives it extra points.

i just sold my force-5 and i'm gonna miss it.i would've taken that over my eagle if i had to pick one.i only kept the eagle because it was black.

my BH cyclone is one hell of a pack.there is no way you could hold that pack in your hands and call it junk.i admit that it is older though and i do wonder about current BH products.

i am not some BH lover,just giving credit where it is due.i have given that ruck some tough treatment and it has worked great.

my overall opinions and i have used a lot of packs a lot of hours.......

i am currently waiting on a KIFARU ZULU and E&E pack.i am sure they will be my best packs.

currently my battle lab pack is by far my best pack.i can not say enough about it.to me quality is something that has to be felt.you can feel the quality in this pack is incredible and the design is also incredible.

i just got done overloading my spec-ops pack this weekend for some backwoods camping.its a descent pack but is showing signs of where prematurely.great pack but could last longer.

i just got a tactical tailor 3-day pack and i dont really like it.i shoul've gotten the eagle 3-day molle instead.

dont know why but i never fell in love with the maxpedition and i have heard some discouraging things about larger camelbaks failing.

all in all the eagle probably is the best bang for the buck since it doesnt look like battle lab is making a 3-day pack anymor


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Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: northern1] #216338 04/15/08 12:26 AM
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nytaneon is not a generic form of nylon,it is a corny,hyped up bs name for the nylon they use which is still 1000-D cordura which is all that matters in that field

what is the difference between a eagle and BH 3-day pack other than where its made as far as materials are concerned???they both use 1000-D cordura,National Molding SR buckles and YKK zippers.

the materials are the same but i do admit that the customer service at eagle is probably better and being made in america gives it extra points.



1000D Cordura is manufactured only by Dupont. Blackhawk do not use 1000D from Dupont but an imitation nylon made overseas which is not the same quality. I have heard many reports that the Blackhawk stuff does not hold up, especially the stitching. I'm not sure about the buckles, the BH packs I've seen did not even have National molding buckles. In my opinion, Eagle has better materials, workmanship and top notch customer service (which I'll probably never use). Besides, I have more respect for american companies who stay at home and offer people jobs instead of selling out to the commies for the almighty buck.

Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: northern1] #216339 04/15/08 06:37 PM
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I love Eagle packs. Tough as hell and comfortable. Blackhawk is crap made in china from some cordura imitation called nytaneon or whatever that [censored] is.

everyone has an opinion.

my is that while blackhawk is made in vietnam......not china......it is still a good pack,bottom line.

nytaneon is not a generic form of nylon,it is a corny,hyped up bs name for the nylon they use which is still 1000-D cordura which is all that matters in that field

what is the difference between a eagle and BH 3-day pack other than where its made as far as materials are concerned???they both use 1000-D cordura,National Molding SR buckles and YKK zippers.

the materials are the same but i do admit that the customer service at eagle is probably better and being made in america gives it extra points.

i just sold my force-5 and i'm gonna miss it.i would've taken that over my eagle if i had to pick one.i only kept the eagle because it was black.

my BH cyclone is one hell of a pack.there is no way you could hold that pack in your hands and call it junk.i admit that it is older though and i do wonder about current BH products.

i am not some BH lover,just giving credit where it is due.i have given that ruck some tough treatment and it has worked great.

my overall opinions and i have used a lot of packs a lot of hours.......

i am currently waiting on a KIFARU ZULU and E&E pack.i am sure they will be my best packs.

currently my battle lab pack is by far my best pack.i can not say enough about it.to me quality is something that has to be felt.you can feel the quality in this pack is incredible and the design is also incredible.

i just got done overloading my spec-ops pack this weekend for some backwoods camping.its a descent pack but is showing signs of where prematurely.great pack but could last longer.

i just got a tactical tailor 3-day pack and i dont really like it.i shoul've gotten the eagle 3-day molle instead.

dont know why but i never fell in love with the maxpedition and i have heard some discouraging things about larger camelbaks failing.

all in all the eagle probably is the best bang for the buck since it doesnt look like battle lab is making a 3-day pack anymor


This 3 day pack???

http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/Three...CU-P856C27.aspx


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Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: reconseed] #216340 04/20/08 01:02 AM
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Years ago, I used a North Face pack and it was very sturdy. Mine had an internal frame and leather bottom.


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Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: Willieboy] #216341 04/22/08 10:19 AM
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My favorite company is Eagle, as they are still made in the USA.
USA numba one, GI.

My main pack is a coyote Eagle 3 day. Both my brother and I have one.
I also have the maxpedition pygmy falcon, which is my main go-to bag for dauily or overnight useage. It is probably the best bang-for-the-buck pack I have.
I like it enough to also pick up an OD baby condor. I have not used it much, yet, except to tote around my loot at militaria and gun shows.

I have a couple of blackhawk packs, among them the phoenix. It is like a 4-5 day assault pack. With the add-on side pouches, it can hold a roo's worth of junk, for a 3 day trip during the winter. That's when weak roo's need lots of clothes to stay dry and warm, plus bigger rounds that go thru thicker things.

Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: macgregor] #216342 04/22/08 07:39 PM
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I havent had a good backpack since I moved out, been using my gym bag for most walk arounds. However I've never heard a bad thing about T.H.E. Pack from spec ops, so decided to order one of those in over the weekend, I'll update on how it is when it arrives. Awesome collection btw northern1 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: reconseed] #216343 04/22/08 08:18 PM
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My pygmy falcon:
[Linked Image from hunt101.com]
The pygmy falcon is my main daypack, for short adventures like hunting Mothman.
This is my Eagle pack. My Mom got it for me for Christmas a few years back; one of the best presents I have ever received:
[Linked Image from hunt101.com]

Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: reconseed] #216344 04/22/08 08:21 PM
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My Countycomm B.O.B. I like the color a lot. Very low key, compared to any camo, or SWAT black. Also attracts less Sheltie hair:
[Linked Image from hunt101.com]

Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: rooikat] #216345 04/22/08 10:41 PM
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I'm gona get myself a falcon2.
Anyone have one.


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Re: Best backpack companies... [Re: macgregor] #216346 04/23/08 03:04 AM
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I just got the Blackhawk a couple days ago and I am very happy with it. It is an older style than the one in the link without the Molle or the bottom zipper.
It was also a third the price of the new one and one 6th the price of an eagle.
Now that everyone has stuck Molle webbing on all their packs it is a great time to find an older model on sale.

You have to be honest with yourself about why you need a pack. I use mine everyday but not very hard. If you want a serious outdoors pack that you can carry a lot of heavy gear day after day then spend the cash and get a top loading Kifaru(or similar quality) with a good padded waist belt and an internal frame. I actually have a civilian pack like that and it is awful for the day to day holding my wallet and books in the car stuff.

The Blackhawk would be horrible for having to haul stuff up a mountain but it is perfect for on my motorbike or being used as luggage. It has good (not excellent but good) stitching and nylon. The buckles aren't the greatest ,they are "kifco"
and I will probably swap them for some excellent Canadian army ones I have hundreds of. The main zipper is huge ,it is not a YKK but it is a good zipper and the design is very well thought out. Other than the sage colour it could be a decent civilain pack.

Now that I think about it it is really just a first rate college bookbag with a hydration sleeve in a "tactical" colour. I can see how someone buying this as a serious assault pack would be disappointed but they probably should not have cheaped out. For a really good military pack you are looking at about 250 to 300$ but I bet if you really shopped around and were not picky about colour or which good brand you could get a really good nonmolle one on clearance for 150$ maybe even a bit less.


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