Ok I´m gonna show you a DFLE with 50" blade later LOL

I like the sword idea.

This has been discussed about a year ago and a few times since. Some of you newer guys probably just missed. But, no problem bringing it up again. It has been too long.

..... although, I have to agree with MRpink: This thread has been killed (hijacked) by "video games, khurkis, mall ninjas, and southpark boxers!" Any hope to have a worthwhile arguement about bringing such an item have been tanked. If Dan sees this thread, it will be hard for him to not associate a sword with Mall Ninja and silliness. I am pretty sure Dan doesn't want to make a blade associated with these things.

But, there are a good number of us that would be interested in a sword. I would like a good 14"-15" Golok or Barong as well.

I think I posted my first Ruck variant concept back on June 13th (per a quick search). My concept ScrapRuck has been tweaked a little since. Here is my last version:



My original post was here: Scrap Ruck Kensei

89% voted they would buy it. So, I know there is a good number of Dogs that want a sword type blade.


I like some of the concepts posted, but honestly, I would much rather have a wakazashi length with a blade around 15" - 17" and probably with a blade height closer to 1.25" - 1.5" (less than the DF).

At lengths much longer, you are not talking about efective tools so much as zombie weapons. Machetes and certain thin light-weight blades can be functional up to about 21" or so, but keep in mind a Scrap Yard is likely to be about .25" - .275" thick or so. If it is that thick and as tall as the DF, it will be VERY heavy. It might be very impressive and something to drool over, but too heavy to carry and use.

Also, keep in mind that Busse appears to have a couple of mold style options for Res-C (actually 4 that I am aware of - large and small from the Swamp Rat line and large and small from the Busse Basic series. Three of those have been re-used here at Scrap Yard.) They are all one-handed options.

I don't see Busse making a special two-handed mold for a run of long blades.
Personally, I prefer a single-handed longer blade that can be used for machete type work anyway. The large Swamp Rat Res-C handle is the most likely usable Res-C handle - same as on the DF/DFLE, YG/YH and S6.
Personally, I would rather have a 1-handed version for machete type use anyway. But, weight has to be controlled for 1-handed use. I don't personally want a 2 foot blade with about 4 pounds of SR-77 to try to control and use.

So, granted, I could be wrong, but I think designs are going to have to be designed around the single handed Res-C mold. And I feel weight and length should be considered based on that mold as well.

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DFLE with 14" blade, not too big or heavy

Looks very nice, I want one.

must say i didn't like any of what was popping up until simon's 14"er. not too long for one hand, but still huge.

Has there ever been anything discussed where if Dan made less than 89% would buy it?
I would buy Scrapyard scissors.

Swords are sort of exotic rather than actual using tools so they suit Busse more than Scrapyard.

Also the market is flooded with both crappy and excellent swords from China.

I am sick of katanas anyway. An S7 rapier would be cool

Ninhonto (real katanas) were very sharp but also very hard and brittle. Western swords did not take as good an edge but would bend rather than break.
The japanese sword is probably the most over rated weapon ever. Western swords were far better. Even Japans greatest swordsman Musashi got his 2 sword style from watching Portugese traders with a rapier and dagger.

A DFLE would break a ninhoto probably the first time they hit.

Actually Unsub A well made Nihon-to(Japanese sword) made traditionally has a blade layered several thousand times as a result of folding ,a crucial part of the forging process.Also the way that a japanese sword was tempered using a clay tempering process results in a blade very similar to the differentially tempered Swamprat knives. That is a softer blade body for toughness with a lower rockwell hardness 45 to 50 or so and an edge with a much higher rockwell hardness probably 60 or higher. This rusults in a nearly unbreakable blade which holds an edge but can withstand a large amount of lateral stress. Swords have been made this same way for centuries in Japan. I am not talking about the $9.99 BudK katanas, I mean real Katanas which cost in the thousands.Class dismissed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I would think Unsub would have some nice expensive swords.
don't you do cutting competitions with them or something?
idk, but clay is still used today to diff. temper blades.
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Woooohoooooo, fight club.

I always thought that when 2 samurai fought they would only strike when they knew they could get a deathblow? I thought the whole blocking and sword to sword striking was just in the movies?

Now this is a discussion! Classical swordsmanship teaches to cut down an opponent with one or two moves, usually a parry followed by a killing cut, or a wounding cut followed by a killing cut,or a one move killing blow as you stated.Practitioners of Kenjutsu,Kendo,Iaido,and the two sworded Nito styles are taught to parry only when necessary using the back or flat of the blade.The samurai believed their swords to be part of their soul and even a well forged katana of the utmost quality wouldn't last very long clanging edge to edge with other swords. I had the rare opportunity to hold a 600 yr. old katana that belonged to a private collector and I was in awe,the guy even had an insurance policy on it. I hope i'm not sounding like a know-it-all here ,but i've studied ancient japanese history for 17 years now and am also an avid martial artist,it's cool to find some people who obviously share the same obsession for steel, be it japanese, chinese,european,whatever. anyway theres no doubt in my mind that a scrapyard sword would ROCK!

Nah you don't sound like that. Im always trying to learn new things and its really neat that someone here can shead some light on this topic. Now maybe dan will see we all arnt a buch of mall ninjaish ppl.

Yes i would love a SY sword. I think if it ever was made and realeased it would sell out in record breaking time.