After those 154 tests I wonder if anyone would change their vote?

If anyone does want to change ,just put it into the thread and we can do the math when it's over.

I would love a 154 S7 but I doubt it would be as popular as the skelly.

Scraper that does not make me think "well it's no DFLE"? The SS4. It is possible I could feel that about the S6LE but I don't have one.

I voted yes, I'd love a stainless EDC necker that I could take into the ocean, rafting, kitchen, fishing, crabbing, etc.

I have visions of a stainless bolo!

So I'm the only one that wants a necker but not stainless? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I'm not sure a skele would have many advantages over the Muppy other than being flat.. The amount of steel forming a skele handle would weigh the same/very similar as a narrow tang with mudder res-C imho.

Having seen the test pics I'd agree the Muppy is a good/great alternative to the SS4 for those that missed the mighty SS4, but I've got an SS4 so I'm already a happy man! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Would I buy a small, lightweight stainless Yard skele necker? Maybe.. I do like my CRKT Dogfish a lot.. a Yard version would be nice even in 154CM!

Would I buy a HCLE (if I didn't already have one), to be honest probably not, as the Bark River Bravo 1 is coming out in stainless very soon.

There are many companies that make nice 154CM blades, I came to the Yard for SR77 and maybe SR101/D2/INFI !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I would love to see a Scrap Yard version of a fillet knife. I have seen a Busse and it was sweet. Chickenplucker

I think a 5.5" to 6" long Ratmandu shaped blade 3/16" thick with the larger Res C handle would make a nice hunting knife. Stainless is great for skinning animals and Res C makes for a nice grip. Think of it as a modern version of the Buck 119.

The reason I like a skelly better than the mudder handle is because I find the mudder handle a lot harder to carry as an EDC because it is so fat even though it is nice and light. I especially like neck catty under a shirt and the mudder is no good for that at all. The HC is to heavy because of the full tang and big G10 or on the ones in the store right now micarta grips.


I am a big fan of tool steel for knives. In many ways it is superior to stainless.
Some steels suit certain types of knives better than they do others and Sr77 is
one of those steels where it is particularly good for big hard use blades where they are going to experience a lot of shock and awe.

S7 before the Busse guys got a hold of it was not even considered a cutlery steel
because it did not get hard enough to take a good edge. It was used for things like jackhammer bits where it needed to be insanely tough but not that hard.
The truly amazing thing Dan and Jerry did with it (probably while making the Crash Rat)was to make it hard enough to hold a decent(actually pretty [censored] good)
edge. Now I have done no testing so this is a wild guess but I figure Sr77 is close to 1095 in edge holding which is pretty amazing and perfect for a knife like the DFLE.

However it is not a good choice for a small knife where toughness takes a back seat to edge holding. That is where you need something like CPM154 or S30V.
There are tool steels that hold an excellent edge like SR101 which is what I had originally guessed would be what the Yard would use for their smaller knives but tool steel does not have any real advantages for a knife this small so CPM154 is a great choice.

Now the only issue I have with 154 is it is not terribly exciting. All the other Busse steels have been the kind of thing us steel snobs love. Sr77 ,diff tempered 52100 and especially INFI are all exciting interesting steel while CPM154 is a bit pedestrian. 5 years ago it would have been fine but now it lacks a little excitement. Still it is a top notch super stainless and CPM154 is a
quintessential American steel which is a nice touch for a US made product. Hell I appreciate it and I am not even an American.

I think the Muppy tests finally put to rest any worries people had over
toughness issues. Now Scrapyard has 2 excellent steels and can have a full lineup of blades with steel and heat treat perfectly suited to the task in which they were designed for.

There could be a bit of overlap in size but it is the purpose that is important.
For example we can have a small hard use knife like the YKCG in Sr77 and a bigger hunting knife in 154 like a Buck 119 like HornDog mentioned. I love that idea and think something along the lines of a Fallkniven S1 with a mudder handle and CPM154 would be a perfect hunting knife.

Unsub, I only read like the first few words of each paragraph, so I think I know what you know I mean. I know there are plenty other companies making stainless knives, but a stainless necker I can take into the water no problem and have that crazy warranty! HHAHAH. Still I OF COURSE I dont want to see it replace the SR-77, but a few "sepceial" releases would be sweet. I didn't realize how usueful stainlesss could be until I went on a crabbing trip in San Francisoco.

"I only read the first few words of each paragraph because you are a babbeling wanker. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


I don't want to replace Sr77 knives ,I just think that ome particularly smaller knives are more suited to 154. The bigger ones like the S7 and DF's and even one of my favourite small Sr77 knives the YKCG should still be Sr77.

Dan and Jerry continually impress me with how well they know the engineering side of edges and blades so it is no wonder then that they would have a steel for specific uses.

Ok, sober today. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

That's the reason why I sold my MPLE. I liked the mudder handles a lot, but I felt it was too big for a small knife. I'd love to see more mudder handles in the future, but the MPLE is almost as long as my DM. A skelly SY would be sweet, and I'm sure one will be coming, they all have one but us!