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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! [Re: WhichDawg] #235290 07/27/08 06:11 PM
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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! [Re: chickenplucker] #235291 07/27/08 06:13 PM
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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! [Re: chickenplucker] #235294 07/27/08 06:19 PM
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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! [Re: WhichDawg] #235295 07/27/08 06:52 PM
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but can I still whine and moan about the slow forum! takes forever sometimes to load a post sometimes, I thought it was fixed grrr

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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! #235297 07/28/08 08:05 AM
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If this testing information had been posted BEFORE the knives went on sale I doubt you would have any canceled orders. Folks had lots of questions about the durability of Busse 154CM before the knives were available. When there is little real information in the market and the first available testing information has an unexpectedly poor result, people will tend to assume the worst. I'm afraid that's just human nature.

I'm a marketer by profession and I market the new technology first and THEN the products that use the new technology. If the customer believes in the new technology then it's an easy leap to believe in the products that are based on the technology.

And thanks Dan for providing the great testing info.


Human engineering is generally thought to specialize in things like ergonomics. But there is a psychological aspect to human engineering as well. If a fighter pilot enters a dogfight while undergoing five G’s acceleration, the choices on his control panel and stick have to be easy. Not theoretically easy, but guaranteed easy for the human body-mind under that kind of stress. So do not expect the pilot to accommodate himself to a stupid dashboard. Build the plane to accommodate the nature of the pilot’s reactions under stringent conditions. Or else lose pilot and plain to an enemy with a control panel designed according to better principles of human engineering.

That’s the kind of psychological human engineering that Kratz is talking about. Follow the forum entries between the announcement of the “numbers and letters” steel and the release of the knives, and there was feverous speculation about the qualities of this new Busse Kin steel. Most of it veered towards expecting a stainless steel Excalibur, only better. What you had (metaphor alert!) was a supersaturated solution awaiting the first good information that would determine the shape of the new crystalline matrix. The first good information turned out to involve Horn Dog’s oak log.

What would you expect, in those conditions? The next time you do something like this, release the test results before you release the knives. That's what you did with the DogFather. That way you have control of the shape taken by the supersaturated solution. In the wake of the published torture tests, Vic’s broken tip would have been a blip on the radar, easily dealt with.

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As someone pointed out, cancelled orders were most likely the result of the DMDC's not shipping as planned. Better communication really was in order but was lacking. THAT is the one area that could be improved upon for the benefit of the Yard and the Dogs. I hope the MudPuppies and BirdDogs will be available to everyone soon, and the S-7 not far behind! Tom


I wrote an entry about this subject that was more critical of the Yard than I ever expected to publish. I don’t apologize for what I wrote. If I see a friend seriously screwing the pooch, apparently without a clue to the damage he is doing himself, I will call him on it.

We had one release of the DMDC, with another release promised in three or four weeks. Four months later there is still no sign of the DMDC. Instead, two new knives are on offer. Apparently anybody who was in line for the new DM was welcome to hang himself in a closet and wait until Scrap Yard was good and ready to fulfill its promises. Dogs of the Yard, this is not businesslike. This is not professional behavior. This is not the way to build a good reputation as a reliable company. It gave me no pleasure to say this was not the done thing. But—this was not the done thing. Not among savvy businessmen. A good reputation is hard to gain and easy to lose.

I am nothing but pleased to see that Dan has been paying attention.

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As for the poor communication with the DMDCs, you are painfully correct. We really dropped the ball on that one and are in the process of fixing the problem. With a ton of new models planned for the coming year we are hoping to have the kinks worked out very soon.

Again, I thank everyone for their continued patience and we will do our best to improve in the areas where we need attention.

Now, where's my bourbon?

Dan


As long as the Yard cleans up its act in these problematic areas, “Praise the Lord and pass the Jim Beam!”

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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! #235299 07/28/08 01:09 PM
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Vic is not at fault here at all, nor should he be made the scapegoat. It is rediculous to even bring that up. As the saying goes, if you are going to point the finger always remember there are 3 more pointing back at you. I recently cancelled my order for the DMDC, I am more than tired of waiting, 4 weeks turned into 4 months and still nothing. I am not in a financial position to hold onto the money until they are ready to send me the knife or return my emails. Dan and Patti definitely need to do damage control, and in a hurry. I have all the respect in the world for them and there may be a good reason for the lack of comunication, but I think they need to speak up and straighten up this situation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! [Re: silverbullets] #235300 07/28/08 01:28 PM
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I don't blame you at all SB, I would have probably done the same.


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Re: 154CM Destructive Testing ! ! ! ! [Re: Shaolin] #235301 07/28/08 01:36 PM
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Yeah it is too bad, hopefully when the S7 comes out it is handled a little better than this and truthfully I think they have learned a lesson from this and I am sure it will be done a lot cleaner. I am really looking forward to that one.... hopefully by Christmas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />


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