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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: KnifeGuy] #244959 09/22/08 06:34 PM
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I have done many comparisons over the years. Usually, I tried to have the edges as comparable as possible. But over time, I have read so many posts about dull edges or requesting sharpening information, I have concluded that many new users lack the skill to properly sharpen a knife. Not to beat a dead horse, but the purpose of a knife is to cut, and knives should come reasonably sharp from the factory. The new CE versions from Busse are great. They may not be "pretty", but they darn sure cut. I think it is a step in the right direction.

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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: Horn Dog] #244960 09/22/08 06:44 PM
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Great review/pics/info. I also agree that the Bussekin knives should be sharper out of the box.


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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: Horn Dog] #244961 09/22/08 07:12 PM
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I have done many comparisons over the years. Usually, I tried to have the edges as comparable as possible. But over time, I have read so many posts about dull edges or requesting sharpening information, I have concluded that many new users lack the skill to properly sharpen a knife. Not to beat a dead horse, but the purpose of a knife is to cut, and knives should come reasonably sharp from the factory. The new CE versions from Busse are great. They may not be "pretty", but they darn sure cut. I think it is a step in the right direction.

I completely agree Vic.

In some ways, I can understand and appreciate attempts in the past to make the edge comparable. Because it helps to have the edges comparable to compare and isolate other design features of the knife.
So, in many ways cutting and chopping comparisons are much harder to do if there are so many factors - such as edge profiles and edge sharpness.

It "can" be hard to judge whether a knife "could" possibly cut or chop well "if" sharpened comparably to other blades with better profiles and edges.

For my purposes, I "Hope" Busse is not a "Dead Horse" and will do certain things right so I can quite beating. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

If I am "paying" for a "knife" which by my definitions is (also) a "cutting" tool (before a prying and rock busting tool), then I think high dollar knives need to have more focus from the factory on VERY relevent details such as cutting ability - largely dictated by proper edge profile and sharpness.

I also agree the CE blades at least have properly profiled blades.

I can't honestly say my CE Hell Razor came to me sharp. It was not sharp. It would not slice cut paper.

But, for my purposes, I would rather have a well profiled slightly dull blade that I can make sharp faster. Than have a very optuse blade profile that cuts hairs. The well profiled blade is 10 times closer to what I want and so much easier to get the blades edge how I feel a blade should cut.

If I have to reprofile an obtuse edge profile, the factory edge doesn't do me any good as I have to grind and sharpen as if it were dull.

But, all a well profiled blade needs is some finish work.

Ideally, a HIGH dollar knife would have both - a great edge profile and a sharp edge. I can except that some of the CE blade may have had both. But, mine did not.

And while I "wish" ALL Busse blades would come with a CE profile standard, I do NOT like the pitted CE unfinished blades..... just feel I should be clear on "my" opinion about CE pits.

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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: KnifeGuy] #244962 09/22/08 07:24 PM
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My Sarquatch CE came sharp, so I assumed that was typical. I did not touch the edges of these knives before chopping. I'll admit the Barkie was a bit sharper, but not much.


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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: Horn Dog] #244963 09/22/08 08:45 PM
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Nice job Vic,cool pics too!


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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: chickenplucker] #244964 09/22/08 08:50 PM
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The HB looks great, I'm still deciding on what to be my first BRKT. Really looking forward to the Gunny and Khukri.


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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: MRpink] #244965 09/22/08 09:02 PM
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I keep hearing hints from Renee about something new from the Yard. I wonder if I'll be getting yet another camp knife soon. Wouldn't it be awesome if Dan had a kukri or bolo? I was thinking how cool a Sarsquatch would be with a Res C handle.


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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: Horn Dog] #244966 09/22/08 09:12 PM
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Great comparison review HD and I like the idea of out of the box "standards" in future reviews.

I think it a fair point as well.....knives should be sold "sharp"....


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Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: Private Klink] #244968 09/22/08 10:09 PM
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Vic, the rogue bowie I just got is the most impressive knive knife I have ever recieved. the sheath, the edge, you name it. I am looking hard at the hudson bay but I might pass.
how much was busse selling the ce models for?

Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: Steel Fan] #244969 09/22/08 10:11 PM
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how much were the Busse Sarsquatch CE sold for?

Re: Got Camp Knife? [Re: scrappy] #244970 09/22/08 10:19 PM
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I think the Sarsquatch CE was $300+. As it turned out, I ended up with two SarQs. Great camp knives. I love big camp knives, bowies, and choppers, so I had to have a SarQ. I still haven't found any camp knife to surpass the Chopweiler in chopping. The SarQ does pretty well, though and carries light. The Camp Tramp, Ratweiler, and Chopweilers are hard to beat. But sometimes, I go retro. I really like the Hudson Bay. It is a versatile well-rounded camp knife. And I think it looks great. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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