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Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
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11/04/08 10:53 AM
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out5yder
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I wonder why are uncoated blades (like limited editions) more expensive than coated blades. I saw on Busse Combat the price of a LE can reach even the double of a normal edition for the same model, while I see like the only major difference that the LE is not coated. For Scrap Yard, the price difference is lower, but however, the uncoated LEs are more expensive too. And I don't understand why... I believe a coated blade requires more time, money and effort to add the coat on it, so normally I think the uncoated blades should be cheaper. Is there something I missed...?
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: out5yder]
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11/04/08 10:58 AM
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KENKEN
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basically because of more work... full height grind compare to the coated saber grind. Satin finish in the LE requires more time. In Busse's case you are paying for the tiger hide handle as well.
Last edited by KENKEN; 11/04/08 11:02 AM.
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: KENKEN]
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11/04/08 11:09 AM
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tedwca
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The LE's are hand polished to remove the dimples and tool marks in the steel. This takes a bit of work, just ask Horn Dog. The coated blades are not finished at all as the coating hides the imperfections in the steel.
Ted Wilson Dum inter homines sumus, colamus humanitatem. BTW - Winter is Coming.
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: KENKEN]
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11/04/08 11:14 AM
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Momaw
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edit: Oi, post-sniped!
The uncoated blades are also finished. That is, the surface of the steel is ground down quite a bit and then polished so it looks nice. The coated or "combat grade" blades are not finished... If you dissolve the coating, the steel is rough from the foundry. There's some pictures floating around on the forum here.
Last edited by Momaw; 11/04/08 11:15 AM.
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: Momaw]
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11/04/08 11:52 AM
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out5yder
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
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11/04/08 12:38 PM
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bradph
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Can a blade be polished by hand (at home), or are powered tools required?
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
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11/04/08 12:56 PM
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silverbullets
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It would take a long time and a lot of work to put a good satin finish on by hand. There are people out there that will do it for you for a small enough fee to where I wouldn't even think about taking on that task myself.
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: silverbullets]
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11/04/08 01:34 PM
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Rainwalker
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I know from personal experience, nice shiny satin or polished finishes take a lot of time and work... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I really like it when we're given a choice, example the SOD, that makes it a little better if your really having to count the pennies, or if you'd just prefer to go ahead and pay the extra to have that nice shiny finish.
Or if you want both!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Or in the SOD's case All Three choices!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: Rainwalker]
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11/04/08 01:43 PM
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silverbullets
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I know from personal experience, nice shiny satin or polished finishes take a lot of time and work... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I really like it when we're given a choice, example the SOD, that makes it a little better if your really having to count the pennies, or if you'd just prefer to go ahead and pay the extra to have that nice shiny finish.
Or if you want both!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Or in the SOD's case All Three choices!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I agree Jeff, and the pricing on the SODs is very reasonable, what gets me is the Busse blades, there is no reason for a blade to cost 100+ dollars more for a satin finsh, $40-$50 is okay, that makes more sense to me.
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: silverbullets]
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11/04/08 04:16 PM
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bradph
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So may I assume a mirror-like finish takes even longer? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: bradph]
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11/04/08 04:22 PM
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silverbullets
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well, if you did it by hand yes, I think with a grinder it is just a matter of using a different grit
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Re: Why are uncoated blades more expensive?
[Re: silverbullets]
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11/04/08 04:33 PM
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Steel Fan
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Doing your own satin finish would be a lot easier if you could remove and re-attach the handles easily...but you do need power tools like a belt sander. Without removing the handles it is virtually impossible to get a perfect finish...
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