Actually, I wouldn't mind a Ratmandu in 154CM. I think the grind of the tip is robust enough to be fairly strong. It would be pretty, for sure.

A satin 'mandu would be sweet! Probably wouldn't want to go much larger than though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

the swamp as a business can do whatever it wants...im sure they will loose a few customers, but im sure if they were to say they had a NEW knife for sale right now in limited quantities that they would sell out very quickly. it seems the busse family knows knife making and business. as long as there is demand they will always "have" business. and it looks like demand is VERY high.

personally i just hope that the next BC/SR/SY is something exotic and not another camp knife or edc.

my 2 cents. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I agree. We are practically sitting here begging them to take our money.

I'm gunna hang in there and see what comes of SRKW. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I haven't heard taps being played over at Swamprat yet,but it would be a shame to lose one of the 3 kings.I bought my CT and HR gen2 way back when and The Swamp holds a special place in my heart...tear.Seriously though I guess people really are drawn to res-c handles,I like them too and it seems to keep the price of the knives down too.I still want a Battle Rat!!

The miltary excuse always pops up when they have shortages. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> If your business runs well you expand capacities, no big deal. Will see if the swamp survives but even if it does, if there is no love behind what they produce what's the point.

They have relegated the swamp for occasional runs, doubt that with all the knives that they sold in 08 that the they could've paid a single employee. Frankly the margins are higher on Busse and you have the Yard on the entry level to start the addiction. I'm afraid there is no need for Rats. We will see if & what happens with the rodent line. The forum has been kept alive by the fans, seriously no input from the company, I think Eric posted maybe 7 or 8 times in a year. Compare this with his continuous stream of postings on the Busse forum.

The idea that Rats may in the future represent the stainless steel business of the Busse group is actually quite good. It would not be the same Swamp from years ago but it would differentiate itself from the more upmarket blades and at the same time give it a unique character.

What annoys me is the complete lack of communication to their customers. In a sense the Busse group lives of word of mouth in the internet (in this case it might be word of keyboard <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ). They take pride in being close to their fans and suddenly the Swamp goes silent.

Good points Bodhi. The other thing to look at is " price" . It will be very interesting to see if they can hold the price down on the SY steel. If you watch the secondary market you will notice things overpriced usually sit- or is grabbed by an excited newbie.The demand is there ONLY if the " price is right" .If they are not making a really good profit- why should they produce at all ? They also have to keep their eyes on the other guys like Ranger-Becker and others putting out some really good steel at pretty darn good pricing. In my business if I can't make good money I just don't do it and who would blame us ? So............. price is a huge factor as is quality. Just some other thoughts. Thank You

i never said they would be stainless.i said that i'd bet money they'll be stainless.its only a guess of mine,not a fact.

eric has been vague about the rodent line details as we all know and is why i used the word "hinted" when i was referring to what he said.

he pretty much said in the original post on the swamp forum that it wasnt going to be camp knives so that eliminates them and something in the name "rodent line" makes me think its not a line of choppers and while a folder could technically pop up at any busse kin i doubt a whole line of them.

something about EDC was mentioned in a post somewhere and it wasnt in erics original "the rodents are coming" thread,it was in a different one and no i dont know when or which post and no i'm not hunting it down,i leave that up to someone else more curious than me.

this right here is probably a loooong stretch but i wondered if eric was trying to do the riddler thing jerry does sometimes when he said
"not your EveryDay Camp knife......E-veryD-ay C-amp......EDC????

we'll have to wait and see.

its "MY GUESS" its going to be a stainless EDC line of knives based on the way i interpreted erics vague description.

bushcraft is popular right now in the knife community.i wouldnt be surprised to see thin bushcraft knives like little nessie's like the busmuk jerry showed us.
something to appeal to the wilderness & survival forums groups on the other knife forums.

i love what swamp and the yard did with the stainless.its the best i've ever had stainless perform for me,period.

That’s nothing new. I found Swamp Rat back when they sold the Battle Rat, Camp Tramp, and the rest. I sent multiple emails to ask a simple question. When I got no response, I refused to risk my money on knives that might or might not be delivered. If Eric—or whoever—had been on the ball, I’d have owned at least one set of the original line.

I’ve bought from Swamp Rat since. But I’m never surprised by failure to communicate on their part.

At least things are somewhat better over here coms wise..

I understand implume's disdain. I do. However, every time i have bought from SR at the company store, CS has been top notch. However, they had stock sitting in the store, mind you. everytime i emailed, Eric responded. SR is what got me started on busse kin knives. I hate to see them go but I think they are done in comparison to SY and BC. I think Jerry is going for a 2 tier knife collective project with SY and BC.

SY is entry level but of same quality in terms of hard use/abuse knives.
BC is the top of the line and cream of the crop.

Both SY and BC are the same in terms of toughness, lateral strength and thats what i love about the 2. No matter what you pick or can afford, you arent sacrificing toughness. (laterally) and SR77 is comparable to INFI in many ways, INFI just is better in other areas, toughness aside.

as someone posted above, im not so sure SR has a place anymore. And as much as I love 52100 (SR101), I HATE to say it. I wish BC would use some SR101 and make a line of just SR101 knives like the swamp used to. None of this 154cm crap for me. i know the edge retention is good, etc.. but when your company is built on 52100, STAY WITH IT AS LONG AS IT WORKS! and it has PROVEN to work. its a helluva steel and people love it. better edge retention than beloved sr77 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> yet not as tough <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> so i guess it evens out. I say SR will go under in time, SY will blow up with business (rivaling Busse), and BC will forever hold its place at the top because of what it produces and the quality of steel INFI is.

I would love it if BC ran a line of SR101 knives like spyderco has a Byrd line. (byrd line = cheaper knives) BC could run a few hundred knives of SR101 and offer a lot of people a Busse blade in Sr101. but this is wishful thinking bc it will be a cold day in hell when Jerry uses anything but INFI but then again, why would you. i dont blame him.