Tikka is very nice.

I'm not a pro like Steel Fan but I will chime in since I shoot a Rem 700 in .270.
You don't need a 1200 yard rifle in .338 for hunting, you don't even need to pay extra for the XCR upgrade.
I am going to work and save up over the summer to get a Remington 700 XCR 308 Tactical Long Range Rifle and a Leupold Mark 4 Tactical LR/T because I want to get better and to get better I need to be able to shoot longer.

I love my Remington 700, it was bought by a army man 20 years ago and has had major work on the trigger.
I bought it for a good price and all together with optics, rings, base I spent alittle over 1k.
The Mauser action is classic and proven in every war in the last 100 years.
Today R700 have alittle less fit and finish and are sent out with very heavy trigger pulls for legal reasons.

I have only shot my R700 at 300 yards of my atv but the bullet drops a foot at that range with 130gr Federal.
I'm just a dumb kid with a rifle and to little money trying to teach myself everything about long range shooting. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

For hunting give my my 870 wingmaster anyday, you don't need anymore.

Mac! whats up man, where have ya been! Thanks for your post. Still trying to convince myself to spend the $. Its ALOT. But as you say the 700 's action is the best made.

How you been bro!
Hows the army treating you?
I'm counting down the days untill I enlist. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Yes, it is based on the Mauser action used in almost every hunting rifle and bolt action military sniping rifle and old military rifles such as the Springfield 1903 and Kar 98.
Almost every bolt action sniping system used by the US military is built off the Remington 700, like the M40 and M24.
With alittle work you could make a store bought Remington 700 a 1/2 moa shooting scalpel, there are thousands of different modifications you can buy and hundreds of smiths that work on Rem 700's.

If the price is to much you can buy a savage 110 for quite abit less then the Rem 700.

True, on the SAvage as opposed to the 700, but man, I have my heart set on the model 700. As you said, nothing compares. I wouldnt be satisfied if i went with anything else.

Im out man, goodnight. PT in the am at 0600.

I was thinking about getting a 770 just to goof around with? Not really wanting to drop major coin on the 700 I want. I have to wait a while as I just got some pistols and a 930spx

770 is junk. period. avoid it at all costs. the savage for $399 is a better action than the 770, believe it or not.


i have decided, i am going to get a 30-06 or 7mm mag. the .270 winchester is out of the picture now. so, 30-06 or 7mm mag?

Stick with the .30 cal. Way more options on ammo and especially if you reload. If you really want a belted magnum just buy a .300 win mag. You can put together rounds as tame as .30-06 or you can load up some full tilt boogie stuff for the 400yd Elk shot.

I have a rifle chambered in just about every caliber you can imagine, including wildcats, and the most versatle all arounders are the .30s. Doesm't matter whether you're talking belted magnims or not. I personally love the .308 Win for just about anything you would ever hunt in North America except big bears. It's also probably the most inherently accurate round ever offered to the general public!

Another note: To truly get the best out of any rifle in both the accuracy and versatility departments, you need to get involved in handloading. It will open up a whole new world for you.

thanks Tolly, I am probably going to end up going with the 30-06. If Carlos Hathcock can kill 93 viet cong in Nam with an old Model 70 (a variant of the 700), at very far distances, I say that the 30-06 is a caliber to be reckoned with. I went by Dick's Sporting Goods today and they said they would call and see about ordering me one on Monday. I am really looking forward to getting the 700 xcr.

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Well, Mr.Hathcock was a hell of a shot, and the Remington Model 700 is an excellent rifle, but it's not a variant of the Model 70 Winchester. No more so than them both being bolt actions anyway.

When you start talking Model 70s you are talking my game brother. They are my first love even before knives. The original Model 70s have a 3-position safety and are what is referred to as "controlled round feed". They have a claw extractor that controls the round from the time it picks it up to the time it is ejected. That is why almost ALL dangerous game rifles you will ever see are built on Model 70 actions or other controlled round feed actions and not push feed actions like the Rem 700.

Now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Rem 700, and some folks(especially benchrest shooters) will tell you that the Rem 700 will make for a more accurate rifle for a few reasons that I won't get into here unless asked about. That is not really tru though. As you noted Mr. Hathcock did pretty well with his Model 70.

To make things even more confusing, not all Model 70s are "CRF". There were many years that Winchester made the Model 70 as a push feed action. They lost a lot of customers so they reintroduced the "CRF" Model 70 calling it a Model 70 Classic. If you buy a Winchester (which I always recommend <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />) you want to find either a Pre 64' Model 70, a Super Grade, or a Model 70 Classic. If you ever operate a "CRF" Model 70 you will never want anything else. They are smooth as silk and they function very well when dirty too.

Once more I want to make it clear that the Rem 700 is an excellent action as well.

Recon, Wal-Mart can order rifles as well and if you can find a store that will order them for you their prices can't be beat. Let me know what price you can get the VX for.

I stand corrected, I thought the 70 was the preface to the 700. Again, this is obviously YOUR game as you seem to know what you are talking about far more than I. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I have been shooting my entire life, but then again, I am 24. I am sure you have far more years in "the game," so Im all ears. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The 700 is claimed to be the best action and rifle ever built though. This is claimed by Remington and many shooters around the world. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />