That was an expensive post my friend, lol.

What gets me is that this is what the terrorists wanted but despite all of their attempts we were the ones who shot ourselves in the foot.

Not so much of a depression as a recession again.

People are working but for less money. One job does NOT pay the bills anymore. Wives working,children working everyone I know seems to be cutting back on spending. More local vacations and less cruises and islands around here anyway.
We keep pretty active in our little community through schools and churches and that is happening all around here. And yes people are comparing notes and taking about it. When will "it" end. And just what "it" is. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

Being in a resort community and capitalizing on it by cleaning homes on the area lakes we see a great drop in Chicago's wealthy hiring cleaning people and those who still have regulars like us are cutting back to no winters, and every other week instead of weekly. And others still only once a month from bi-monthly. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

So if the wealthy,and commoners are all cutting back judging from Delavan.Lake Geneva,and Fontana Wisconsin people are all tightening their belts.

I'm toying with doing a bank job for some much need cash in a hurry. I am still in the planing stages but I am open to suggestions as to how and what to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" />

Peace.

I can recall what my parents told me about not having enough food on the table, eating flour soup (my father still shudders when one mentions it). Thats a depression.

If you are wondering if you should postpone the purchase of the next car, now thats a recession.

uh oh! Yard Dogs 11!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

im with you PoP. im a landscaper for the quite rich. we have had a few maint jobs that were once a week go to every 2 weeks. and we've luckily only lost 1 account to lack of money DUE to the market. But, the contractor who we work for on installation jobs just did a remodel, is building a new house and has 2 more lots getting prep'd for building. so like bodhi said i think its a recession since im still working.

but i do think its time for a change like art said. best thing to do is buy some land up in the mountains. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Can you lend me a few bucks for a down payment? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I think things will improve by this summer.

Don't worry - be happy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hell...a bad day in America can be heaven for some in Africa...ditto Britain...Tolly said it right...ignore the hype and lace your boots and take on the day...and as P/K said....be happy...because we do have a lot to be chuffed about compared to many...and worry destroys your health just as much as any other germ or virus. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/chill.gif" alt="" />

Agreed.




I could not agree more. This is part of the problem with FAILING companies like GM too. Bigger isn't always better. Not to mention that a new car 25 years ago cost 3 grand.

The gov't is so wasteful is makes me sick. Obama where is your scalpel I heard you talking about? Some things need cutting!(although I think he needed a chain saw let alone the hatchet? he mentioned


Thats funny.


It is hard for very qualified buyers to get loans now.

the most tangible evidence that the bailouts were a dumb idea.

"hey guys, let's give billions in tax revenue to the biggest and baddest crooks in the country and see if they change their act."

that is also something of a contradiction to that whole 'share the wealth' initiative, too. the banks kept the money and the rich got richer. japan has tried the bank bail out multiple times and it always failed. don't see that on the news because the press sucks. they need an overhauling as much as the politicians do.

I vote for total economic collapse....I believe it is inevitable.

Just make sure you speak French cause that's where we are headed. Not to mention dissing our allies like Britain and Israel and making friends with Hamas and the Taliban...WTF is going on here? I hope we can recover and keep our countries values in tact (especially our constitutional rights) but I see it headed in the wrong direction right now. Socialized health care, socialized banks, socialized education and even socialized charities + bigger government + failing economy + failing relationships with both allies and non-allies + failed values and the loss of our constitutional rights (possibly - we have to see where this goes - right to bear arms, free speech ,etc.)...Not sure what to think anymore but I certainly hope it all turns out okay. Thoughts?

Oh yeah, and I think we are headed for a prolonged recession or a depression unless the gov changes course - the way I see it now we will be in a deep recession that requires the nation turning socialist to get us out and that's not good or preferable.

Viva La France'!!!

The gov't and all of its entities(SS, MedC/A, not so WelF, etc) need major overhauling. They are a group/company much like say umm, GM. They need a new plan just as bad as GM, or any other mess of a company.




Can we actually vote for good solutions/candidates?

There is a great email going around about getting a divorce between lib/cons, dem/rep. Basically, the cons/Reps take the companies, guns, Constitution, NRA etc and the lib/Dem get welfare, ACLU, higher taxes etc.

Where would you want to live, well we all know.