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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: Dumpster Dan] #273922 04/29/09 01:50 AM
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Amen Dan!


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: P-Easy] #273923 04/29/09 01:58 AM
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hey we wouldn't be here if not for you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

it's not like you have a clientele full of slackjaws - this little oasis of smart, informed, interested people isn't here because they don't know any better - it's here because this is where discerning customers who know the difference go to look for their next knife <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 #273925 04/29/09 02:42 AM
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all this talk about people being afraid of their knives (WHATEVER the steel) rusting is silly and unwarranted.

its not like your knife is going to turn to rusty powder and fall apart if it gets a few rust spots. If you use your tools hard, it takes all of .000001 of a second to clean them at the end of the day with a rag and mineral oil.

no biggy.


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: Bushman5] #273926 04/29/09 03:00 AM
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If you use your tools hard, it takes all of .000001 of a second to clean them at the end of the day with a rag and mineral oil.

To much work! I just like to wipe them on my jeans and call it a day. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: Bushman5] #273927 04/29/09 11:08 AM
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"My CE Hell Razor was sitting dry in a drawer right next to a number of my satin SR-101 blades when Hurricane IKE knocked out our electricity and A/C for a few days. During that period inside house humidity must have picked up a bit.

All knives were in a carpet lined drawer in my office. NONE in sheaths, NONE touching each other. Only the Hell Razor rusted. NO rust on ANY of my satin SR-101 blades."

I keep my knives in a wooden chest in a walk in closet...But one thing you might try, --which I do - I keep 3 large bags of desiccant in the chest with my knives. The desiccant will absorb any moisture and keep the environment nice and dry. I use military grade desiccant (desiccite 25)about 3/4 pounds of it. Just FYI <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Also, Boeshield T-9 lubricant is an awesome steel protection lubricant invented by Boeing. It is used in the military and at NASA for corrsion prevention. I really like it but I do plan to try the Ren Wax. Here is an excerpt from the Boeshield web site :

"Boeshield T-9® Was developed by The Boeing Company
for lubrication and protection of aircraft components. It is
a combination of solvents, lubricants, and waxes designed
for penetration, moisture displacement, lubrication and
protection. Boeshield T-9® dries to a thin waxy film that
clings to metal for months. "


And amen to what Dan said! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: KnotSlip] #273928 04/29/09 11:15 AM
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One concern I have is that you should be careful about what you coat your blade with if you will be using it to slice/chop/cut food. You really don't want to be eating the stuff you are coating your blade with. I would recommend you wash it off with soapy water first - then cut your food then re-coat. Or stick to the stainless for food prep and use the non-stainless for cutting non-edible stuff. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thoughts on this?


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: KnotSlip] #273929 04/29/09 11:21 AM
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One concern I have is that you should be careful about what you coat your blade with if you will be using it to slice/chop/cut food. You really don't want to be eating the stuff you are coating your blade with. I would recommend you wash it off with soapy water first - then cut your food then re-coat. Or stick to the stainless for food prep and use the non-stainless for cutting non-edible stuff. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thoughts on this?

I just let any food prep knives develop a patina.


Enjoy every sandwich.
Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: Bushman5] #273930 04/29/09 11:42 AM
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P-Easy - no worries brother.

Dan - thanks and I agree completely.

I am sorry if I offended anyone.


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: reconseed] #273931 04/29/09 01:12 PM
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101-77- INFI etc are all great steel.There is MANY great steels out there like S30V-5160 etc. I for one love the 154 that SY has used on some models and would like to see them even use some other steels. For the majority of us we will never need all the strenghth that Busse blades offer- but is nice to have it.What I look at is the quality and design that go into the SY knives at a REAL FAIR price. These guys put some very nice blades out there that I can USE or set aside if I choose. I doubt you are going to ever lose your investment.In the years to come I would like to see this crew branch out with their talents to some of the other great steels availible today and put their spin on it. I think the best is still to come from Busse and look forward to each and every release <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. Just mt 2 cents- Thanks


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: ordawg1] #273932 04/29/09 01:17 PM
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Right on ordawg!


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Re: SR-101 vs. SR-77 [Re: P-Easy] #273933 04/29/09 03:03 PM
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RS,

I wasn't trying to get on your case or give you a hard time or "Pin" you for your comments.

I appreciate that you have a LOVE, appreciation and desire for SR-77 and that you support SR-77 with "conviction".

I agree with Dan, I applaud your conviction! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

And I understand that you are not trying to bash SR-101 or say SR-101 is bad. But, sometimes you are SO enthuesiastic about how much you think SR-77 is better and how you discuss what you consider the values of SR-77 to be vs. SR-101 that it "sometimes" comes across poorly for SR-101 when you discuss SR-77 vs. SR-101. Sometimes, the way you word things might sound like you are saying SR-101 "Rusts like crazy" or SR-101 isn't NEARLY tough enough or in the same leaque of toughness as SR-77.

Other times, you are very good about clearly stating simple facts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

But, when it comes to "Facts", I just wanted to point out that YES, while SR-77 is more corrosion resistant and all tests we know of indicate that SR-77 is a bit tougher, these "Facts", while relevant, are only relevant in a small way compared to the big picture.

SR-77 may be tougher, but SR-101 is still PLENTY tough for most. A LOT of people have BEATEN the snot out of SR-101 AND pryed with SR-101 and they still hold.

Corrosion resistance may very well be a worthy factor to consider for some.
SR-77 may be more resistant to corrosion, but not by a huge difference. Both will rust and I think it is VERY fair to point out SR-101 is noticalby more corrosion resistant than MANY very popular knife steels. I just wanted to point that out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Some people like yourself obviously want to KNOW their knife is tougher or as tough as you can buy... even if they might not apparently need any tougher than SR-101. (Point in case: you own and use SR-101, but you haven't broken it either.)
But, if it comes down to just wanting to "Know" you own and use the "toughest", you are right. You are "Full within your rights" to have your preferences. I am fine with that.

I am just trying to make sure that for those who are here on the forums and don't yet know how to compare both steels, they have as accurate a comparison as we can provide.

Sometimes, "our" convictions (including my own) can be misleading - even if we don't intend to be misleading.

In the end, both steels are AT THE TOP of the knife steels in the industry in toughness. But, neither is stainless.

My attempt was just to be "More" clear and accurate as possible about the "Facts". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />



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Gentlemen, everything is fine, everyone's comments are fully appreciated, we're talking about the small differences between superior steels, all opinions are welcome and we're all on the same team <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Well said. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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