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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: Dumpster Dan] #276740 01/23/11 05:21 PM
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Dan, don't you mean a 500 bone CRUNCHER! Man shooting that 500 has gotta be rough!

I actually do not see much difference from shooting the 44 mag...other than cost per shot. Now that 454 Casull is the meanest thing I have ever shot.

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I wonder if you're not shooting downloaded rounds then, most of the factory loads I have shot were pretty pleasent to shoot, not overwhelming at all. Now, as far as handloads go, the .500 can be loaded WAY hotter than most factory loads you will come across. I think that is where the reputation of mauling your wrist and occasionally getting hit in the face with the gun comes from. There is a local fella around here who collects brass all day at the local ranges, and he carries a beauty of a 1911 as well as his .500, and he's let me fire a couple handloads. I tell you, a couple was all I could handle, and I'm not recoil sensitive.


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: El CacaFuego] #276741 01/23/11 06:29 PM
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As to the Remington R1. I have not shot one yet, but have fondled a few of them at the gun store. I must say that it has a lot to offer. I do know there are a few guys that are changing the internals, going to beavertails, etc. One thing that I like is the looks of simple and not cluttered with all kinds of "extras". Now, if Remington would make it without all the slide engraving I would be really tempted.


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: sumoj275] #276742 01/23/11 06:34 PM
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Well, for my money, if I had ANY, a 3-5 shot bolt action 14 inch barreled HANDGUN with the bolt handle on the LEFT side in a .24-.25 something caliber. I had an XP100 in .223 once and liked it, but didn't like the single shot bolt part. Nothing wrong with them, just rather have the CHOICE of fast followup shots if needed.


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: SkunkHunter] #276743 01/23/11 06:36 PM
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I know I'm gun ignorant, but when did Remington start making a Pistol (again)?


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: SkunkHunter] #276744 01/23/11 06:56 PM
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2010. Supposedly all made here in the US.


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: sumoj275] #276745 01/23/11 07:32 PM
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Nice lookin gun.


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: lazi] #276746 01/24/11 03:29 PM
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Steel Fan, I thought about having a coonan with a longer barrel as well. I saw a picture on gb with longer barrels and compensators but I think I'd be happy just knowing I have the extra bit over the revolver myself. i would like to have the option to thread the barrel if I should ever pick up a suppressor and a lever action in .357/.38 like I intend. I think they would make for a really quite combo with .38 special and a good hunting combo with .357.

and here's a picture I spotted on gb if you need a few ideas.

[Linked Image from pics.gunbroker.com]

I kind of hope they decide to bring back the cadet as well.

Many thanks for the photo Lazi ... of those pictured I like the top left and second in from the bottom right ... but I would prefer removing the front blade sight from the slide and attaching a Novak diode front sight to the compensator with adjustable Novak rear sights ... this would give a fixed front sight when the pistol cycles and is an advantage in tracking the sight when rapid firing ...

When I went for a Sig P210 back in the 80's I went for the target model having had the oppertunity of shooting both for this reason ...

[Linked Image from i343.photobucket.com]

The sights were'nt the best for carry use and later I sent it to Novak for a set
of their diode sights which I highly rate and got them to do a 1911 mag release modification ... then later on I had a custom pistolsmith over here do a compensator attachment to the front sight mount which is detachable ... back then that was one of the first tricked up Sig's done and I did well with it ... it also worked excellently as a carry pistol and has great "balance" ...

Recently when I found the mag changes were just slowing me down too much and I went for the Czechmate the modifications I have done are the same ...

[Linked Image from i343.photobucket.com]

Take off the slide which has the mounts for the optics and use the slide with normal rear sights changed to Novak's and the front sight I have attached to the compensator ... I prefer shooting the pistol this way as it works fine like this as a carry pistol if need be and using normal sights is second nature for me now and changing to an optic sight would throw me ... I shoot much better this way too ...

Now using the Coonan as a base model or buying one of the two in the pic you found would give a very similar set up ... ideal really ... but as the Coonan has a cammed barrel operation akin to the 1911 I think you would need to be looking at an expensive light weight ceramic silencer for it if you were to avoid jams from the weight of the silencer affecting the camming action ... there are plenty of people I am sure who could do that sort of work though ... and having it interchangeable with the screw threads for a compensator sounds a great idea ... especially if you have the .38 special conversion spring so it can cycle on lighter rounds ... a good silencer would keep the .38+ rounds it is designed for under the 1140 fps so there would be no sonic crack when fired ...

I have this same set up for the Czechmate in the pipeline but am using one of the extra barrels supplied with it for the project as that barrel would need to stay in the UK as the Swiss are not yet "sound moderator/health and safety" conscious as we are over here. I am speaking to my Police Firearms Dept to see if I can switch the pistol on my ticket for Deer dispatching to the Czechmate on the basis it simply would save extra hassle of two pistols ... and we will see what the say ... they are'nt keen on civi's having military calibre's for this sort of thing with high capacity mag's ... but there is case law allowing them.

Pesonally though if I was Stateside and had access to custom pistolsmiths ( our's went overseas or out of business when the ban came in ) I would look at altering the Coonan to bring the weight of the fixed front sight nearer to the camming action and thus reduce the risk of a stoppage ... it would also benefit fitting a silencer too as the mechanical leverage force would be less than on a longer barrel position ... I would try and replicate the work done to this Limcat Custom Comp pistol ... it has the fixed front sight mount dovetailed into the slide ... very nice work but very expensive too ...

[Linked Image from i343.photobucket.com]

This model is their "Wildcat Perfect Sight" model and I really like the features ... done in .40 S&W but available in other calibres ... however when you compare the price of these to the Czechmate and all the extra barrels/slides/sights which come with it you sharp realise what a comparative bargain the Czechmate is ... especially if as overhere in Europe 9mm is the main claibre for ISPC comps ... in fairness both of these are "very expensve" but I would rather own "one" top end pistol than a "number of pistols" where the final total is the same ... it's just a personal preference ... some like more variety ... and each is good ... and compared to the cost of the Limcat Custom's you could have a very effective Coonan for quite a fair bit less ... and those Coonan's shoot very accurately <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: Steel Fan] #276747 01/24/11 04:44 PM
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SF, That last gun is one of the most beautiful guns I have ever seen.


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: kuanomar] #276748 01/24/11 06:29 PM
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I agree. First thing I noticed were the "holes in the slide". I have a factory stock Springfield Armory ultracompact V10 that comes standard with 10 holes in the slid that match up of course with those in the barrel. Works too, but Man does it vent out the top. DO NON shoot it in the retention position! Oh and at night, it has the prettiest V shaped flames shooting out the top!


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: SkunkHunter] #276749 01/24/11 09:02 PM
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With Limcat being a custom maker you can order the pistol without the venting holes in the barrel/slide ... here is a pic showing it without ...

[Linked Image from i343.photobucket.com]

and the same with this digi-cam model ...

[Linked Image from i343.photobucket.com]

Personally if you want the benefit of a compensator I prefer them on the end of the barrel infront of the sights ... the flash generated by the compensator can then be controlled by the powder/load you select for shooting indoors ... although generally with 9mm the flash is mild as most of the powder is burnt in the barrel ... the hotter your cartridge though the greater the flash ...

I am still waiting on an answer to an e-mail to Limcat regarding the price of these ... when the prices are not on the web-site you know it is likely to be expensive ... and for some reason I cannot get the gun order form to open on their home page where I assume the pricing would be ...

A very good design though .... and I have to agree very pretty ...


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: Steel Fan] #276750 01/24/11 09:31 PM
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I like that digicam! Funny thing about my V10 is folks standing around you can see the flames plain as day, but if you are the shooter you don't see anything. Mine was the first on into this part of the country when they first came out. IF I remember correctly I paid I think $650.00 for it, and as I said that was when they first came out when ever that was. The gun shop that ordered it from the company for me had to wait about a month and a half. Did I mention that I like the .45acp.


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Re: HANDGUN THREAD!!! [Re: SkunkHunter] #276751 01/24/11 11:28 PM
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Not sure if this goes in the folder thread or this one but these are with me daily. It doesn't show in the pics but both are reasonably well worn - the S&W way more so than the ZT.

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