Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: Horn Dog]
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05/03/09 10:18 AM
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crpoc
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It is best to practice on some cheap machetes first. An 80 grit belt on a sander removes steel fast, but it does it much cooler than using a fine grit. Don't do the SOD until you have mastered the technique of not grinding off the point. Good luck. A few basic pointers:
1 Try to keep the belt perpendicular to the edge.
2 Try to maintain the same angle all the way down the blade including the belly toward the point. Keep it moving in one long fluid motion.
3 Do not drag the point across the belt. Remove the blade from the belt when the point reaches the outside edge of the belt.
4 Practice this technique with the sander off to be sure you have it down. Great advice, HD. Thank you.
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: crpoc]
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05/03/09 02:29 PM
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I don't really think the coating is much of an issue. It is best to practice on some cheap machetes first. An 80 grit belt on a sander removes steel fast, but it does it much cooler than using a fine grit. Don't do the SOD until you have mastered the technique of not grinding off the point. Good luck. A few basic pointers:
1 Try to keep the belt perpendicular to the edge.
2 Try to maintain the same angle all the way down the blade including the belly toward the point. Keep it moving in one long fluid motion.
3 Do not drag the point across the belt. Remove the blade from the belt when the point reaches the outside edge of the belt.
4 Practice this technique with the sander off to be sure you have it down. Great advice, HD. Thank you. Very good advice!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: Rainwalker]
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05/03/09 11:45 PM
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gRat
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HD, what belt grinder models do you recommend and belts???
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: Horn Dog]
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05/03/09 11:55 PM
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Use a course grit to set the new angle. I like 80 or even 60 grit for this. A cheap belt or a nice Blue Zirconia will work. As soon as the two new angles meet, you'll get a wire edge. Then change belts to maybe the 80 micron (about 180 grit I think) for a few passes to remove the burr and smooth out the rough grind marks of the 80 grit. Then go down to 40 micron or 20 micron until the edge is smooth and sharp. Then go down to a 15 micron for a few passes. Finish polishing with a 9 micron. Others have their own methods and favorites, but that is how I do it. Just remember if you remove it...there is no putting it back... A light touch is always better...practice until you think you know what you are doing and then practice a bunch more. Remember to use a face shield Dan
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: gRat]
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05/03/09 11:58 PM
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Horn Dog
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They all work. Even an inexpensive 1" x 30" from Harbor Freight can do good work. Quality belts are important. I get mine from Lee Valley and elsewhere. Of the ones I have personally used, the Central Machinery from HF, the Delta 1x42, the Chipping Away (not recommended), and my current one, the Kalamazoo 1x42, I like the Kalamazoo best. The Delta is a good machine, too.
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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05/04/09 12:18 AM
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Just remember if you remove it...there is no putting it back... A light touch is always better...practice until you think you know what you are doing and then practice a bunch more.
Remember to use a face shield
Dan Yep, that's why I use a mouse pad and sandpaper, and rarely go coarser than 300 grit. Takes a little more elbow grease, but I am never worried I'm accidentally going to take way too much steel away. It takes a certain level of artistic skill to do a nice job with a belt sander, and I'm not confident that my hands are that steady. My hat is off to those who do great work with those belt sanders!
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: MustardMan]
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05/04/09 12:48 AM
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Horn Dog
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Well you can screw up a knife really fast with a belt sander. That's why I did it with cheap machetes first, to get the feel of the machine.
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: Horn Dog]
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05/04/09 01:17 AM
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And boy will it make a cheap machete into a wicked sharp slashing/chopping machine!
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Re: Belt Sander sharpening question?
[Re: Agent Iron]
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05/04/09 01:38 AM
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Horn Dog
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And boy will it make a cheap machete into a wicked sharp slashing/chopping machine! Yes, I forgot to mention that side benefit of practicing on machetes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> ![[Linked Image from i173.photobucket.com]](http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w64/rivershaman/machetes/OKC12016.jpg)
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