Exactly what I was thinking.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Perhaps we're confusing terminology here or something, but I'm not following you.

Leave the edge as thin as possible, and let the end user decide how he wants to shape it.

you can always remove steel, but you can't add it on..
You can sharpen a zero edge into whatever edge you want..

on the same token the CG edges do have more steel on the edge than a zero, so you could argue that the CG edges have a broader canvas to work with than a zero edge.

I kinda thought a scandi grind was a zero edge as how it didn't have a secondary bevel? So I am not sure what a true "zero" edge is. Would that be a full height flat grind with no secondary bevel? Like a triangle?

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I could grind my zero-edge to the CG edge you are talking about. I can't grind the CG back to zero (the same zero as original!!!) without removing a shitload of steel across the entire width of the blade..

Now which have a broader canvas?
I say the zero-edge..

Yes. a true scandi has a zero-edge. To mantain that edge properly, the entire bevel needs to be worked to keep the excact same geometrie..

and yes..
a true zero edge is like a triangle.. (on a full flat grind that is)

are we talking knife grinds or edge grinds?

sure to make a FULL zero knife grind youd take off much more steel. i had the impression this thread is about the edge grind, not the knife grind.

Thanks Martin, I thought that was the case but the various posts seem to confuse me.

I've been saying I want a scadi ground bowie, apparently I'm crazy.

yes.. we are talking edges..
but the funny thing is.. a zero edge is both knifegrind and edgegrind at the same time..

i understand that, so i dont see how have less steel (full zero edge) is more canvas.

i can make my SOD into a zero grind and edge. but i cant take a zero edge grind and turn it into my grind on my SOD.

edge grinds are easy and you can do whatever you want. i suspect though if you have a zero edge grind and make it an obtuse angle busse edge youd take off as much steel as making an obtuse busse angle zero edge. if not the same then VERY close.

I assume you're talking about the Zero Bevel grind talked about in this article?

Zero Bevel Grind
The poblem with this type of grind, as stated in the article, is that it weakens the structural strength of the blades' edge. Dans' whole premise on his knives are that they are incredibly strong, based upon how he designs them. If you want to put a zero grind on your blade after you purchase it, fine, but IMHO, I don't think he should be held accountable for an edge that compromises the designed strength of his blades.

Furthermore, I honestly wouldn't want to buy knife with this edge on it. There would be a lot less steel on a knife designed on this type of grind, than there would be on a knife done in the traditional manner that Dan has followed.

Trust that Dan has done his homework, and knows what he is doing, in putting the edge on his knives that he currenly does. Mod it if you want to, but allow the customers the choie of removing that steel from their knives.