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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: tripton]
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10/29/09 12:48 AM
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tedwca
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How it reads to me(remember, not a LAWYER) is you can keep adn use HP's at home, etc. as long as it's a legal activity. Use of HPs is a sentence multiplier for illegal activities. I would think self defense in YOUR home is a legal use. However, I live in Cali and they are fine here, you just have to show a billion forms of ID and leave a thumbprint before you can buy ammo.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> Link f.Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets. (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet, or (2) any person, other than a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics as defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) and has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, who knowingly has in his possession any body armor breaching or penetrating ammunition, which means: (a) ammunition primarily designed for use in a handgun, and (b) which is comprised of a bullet whose core or jacket, if the jacket is thicker than.025 of an inch, is made of tungsten carbide, or hard bronze, or other material which is harder than a rating of 72 or greater on the Rockwell B. Hardness Scale, and (c) is therefore capable of breaching or penetrating body armor, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. For purposes of this section, a collector may possess not more than three examples of each distinctive variation of the ammunition described above. A distinctive variation includes a different head stamp, composition, design, or color.
g.Exceptions. (1) Nothing in subsection a., b., c., d., e., f., j. or k. of this section shall apply to any member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or except as otherwise provided, to any law enforcement officer while actually on duty or traveling to or from an authorized place of duty, provided that his possession of the prohibited weapon or device has been duly authorized under the applicable laws, regulations or military or law enforcement orders. Nothing in subsection h. of this section shall apply to any law enforcement officer who is exempted from the provisions of that subsection by the Attorney General. Nothing in this section shall apply to the possession of any weapon or device by a law enforcement officer who has confiscated, seized or otherwise taken possession of said weapon or device as evidence of the commission of a crime or because he believed it to be possessed illegally by the person from whom it was taken, provided that said law enforcement officer promptly notifies his superiors of his possession of such prohibited weapon or device.
(2) a. Nothing in subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land, nor shall subsection f. (1) be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing such ammunition at its licensed premises, provided that the seller of any such ammunition shall maintain a record of the name, age and place of residence of any purchaser who is not a licensed dealer, together with the date of sale and quantity of ammunition sold.
b.Nothing in subsection f.(1) shall be construed to prevent a designated employee or designated licensed agent for a nuclear power plant under the license of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission from possessing hollow nose ammunition while in the actual performance of his official duties, if the federal licensee certifies that the designated employee or designated licensed agent is assigned to perform site protection, guard, armed response or armed escort duties and is appropriately trained and qualified, as prescribed by federal regulation, to perform those duties.
(3)Nothing in paragraph (2) of subsection f. or in subsection j. shall be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing that ammunition or large capacity ammunition magazine at its licensed premises for sale or disposition to another licensed dealer, the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or to a law enforcement agency, provided that the seller maintains a record of any sale or disposition to a law enforcement agency. The record shall include the name of the purchasing agency, together with written authorization of the chief of police or highest ranking official of the agency, the name and rank of the purchasing law enforcement officer, if applicable, and the date, time and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise disposed. A copy of this record shall be forwarded by the seller to the Superintendent of the Division of State Police within 48 hours of the sale or disposition.
(4)Nothing in subsection a. of this section shall be construed to apply to antique cannons as exempted in subsection d. of N.J.S.2C:39-6.
(5)Nothing in subsection c. of this section shall be construed to apply to any person who is specifically identified in a special deer management permit issued by the Division of Fish and Wildlife to utilize a firearm silencer as part of an alternative deer control method implemented in accordance with a special deer management permit issued pursuant to section 4 of P.L.2000, c.46 (C.23:4-42.6), while the person is in the actual performance of the permitted alternative deer control method and while going to and from the place where the permitted alternative deer control method is being utilized. This exception shall not, however, otherwise apply to any person to authorize the purchase or possession of a firearm silencer.
Ted Wilson Dum inter homines sumus, colamus humanitatem. BTW - Winter is Coming.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: Art]
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10/29/09 12:48 AM
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Art
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Mag, haven't you gone out and test fired some firearms?
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: tripton]
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10/29/09 12:49 AM
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Art
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Fired the Garand and though it was nice, the shotgun still wins. For what? Home defense? -- agreed. Lots of other things that the 30-06 is really really good for. Ha! Yes, home defense. On the Garand I love the 8 shot capacity and I felt almost no recoil, so for hunting it would be fine.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: Art]
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10/29/09 12:52 AM
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tripton
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Yeah, for at home I would be a little leary of shooting through the whole house with .30-06
Pretty serious round.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: Art]
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10/29/09 12:54 AM
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Magnum22
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haven't shot since my sister's ex husband used to take me, before the divorce. 9mm ruger.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: Magnum22]
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10/29/09 12:55 AM
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Magnum22
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also don't like the ruger 22's for disassembly. i took one down myself and it was a pain, as advertised.
that's why i have been looking at the beretta u22.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: Magnum22]
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10/29/09 12:59 AM
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tripton
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Cannot say too much about 22 autoloader pistols.
I know that the Rugers I have shot were super duper accurate, but I dont have one.
All I have for 22 pistols is a Heritage Arms revolver, with 22lr and 22mag cylinders. It is an inaccurate piece of junk, and it light strikes the primers about 1 out of 6.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: tripton]
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10/29/09 01:00 AM
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tripton
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Single six is a pretty good way to go too.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: tripton]
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10/29/09 01:02 AM
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Magnum22
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hmm. i thought i smelled fire while playing my guitar earlier today. searched the house, nothing. thoguht the tubes might be burning too hot, so i turned it off.
i'm playin again, throught a smaller, digital, all transistor amp and i smell it again. seems to be coming from the guitar itself.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: tripton]
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10/29/09 01:02 AM
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Art
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Gonna watch Mythbusters, catch you Dogs later!
Mag, go fire a shotgun!
If I could go back I would have bought the shotgun first.
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: tripton]
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10/29/09 01:04 AM
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Magnum22
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Single six is a pretty good way to go too. this was on my list a while. skip the blackhawk and get a 1911 and single six?
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Re: JYD Death Chat II
[Re: Magnum22]
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10/29/09 01:09 AM
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tripton
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Chip McCormick makes nice 10 rnd mags for 1911s. They do stick out the bottom a bit, but that shouldnt matter at home.
If it is indeed strictly for home defense, I still say shotgun. A lot of people view a handgun as simply a tool that you can use to get to a long gun. They are horrifically underpowered compared to a decent longgun.
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