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Re: Bushwhacker battle mistress... [Re: justinellis] #372774 10/24/09 09:44 AM
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That is one good looking mistress. What is the blade thickness on these ladies?
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3/16"

These really look nice and I'm glad he is putting out a CG.

I still like the original handle though.


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It’s not clear. Jerry’s original posts said the Bushwacker would be 3/16” thick.

What the actual production knife will be is an unknown quantity.

Re: Bushwhacker battle mistress... [Re: banana-clip] #372776 10/24/09 09:55 AM
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That is one good looking mistress. What is the blade thickness on these ladies?
Justin

3/16"

These really look nice and I'm glad he is putting out a CG.

I still like the original handle though.

So much good steel out there, so little money left. Just to throw another fly in the ointment, Jeff Randall has a 10" blade 3/16" thick RC-10 coming out. And while it is not INFI, 1095 works pretty well for me. Looks like I need to sell some more midsized choppers to get another Busse. A lighter battle mistress is quite appealing.


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Re: Bushwhacker battle mistress... #372778 10/24/09 10:36 AM
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You KNOW the answer Bruce: different strokes for different folks! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Bushwhacker battle mistress... #372780 10/24/09 10:53 AM
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Man, I don't own a BM of any sort, so this will be hard to pass up....even though I have several large blades and find the mid to smaller blades more useful. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


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Hmmmm, I can think of some tasks that'd be pretty tough to do with such a large blade, thin or not. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Cleaning fish or game, meal prep, making fuzz sticks (not impossible but harder than using say a 4" thin blade), etc. Still, I may need to pick one up - Heck, I bought a Waki and I'll never use it for anything unless we see a Zombie invasion in my lifetime. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Bushwhacker battle mistress... #372784 10/24/09 11:18 AM
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These days the woods are full (no pun intended, but it’s inevitable) of bushcraft aficionados who insist that a four-inch bushcraft knife and a small axe are the only proper tools to use in the woods. Anybody carrying a big knife is a Rambo wannabe or else he has drunk the Busse Kool-Aid.

I beg to differ. Here’s a quote from the pamphlet Woodsmanship, which was published in 1945. The subject heading is Brushing, Page 60.

The camper’s preference in brush cutters is the trail knife—an oversized hunting knife with a 10-inch blade, carried in a sheath at the belt. This is really a combination knife and hand-axe, capable of cutting brush, felling saplings up to several inches in diameter, and splitting small firewood. These big knives bring to mind the still larger machete, of which there are endless patterns, but the typical machete is more effective on cane and other soft vegetation than on brush.

I would submit that the Busse Battle Mistress, the Swamp Rat Battle Rat, or the Scrap Yard Dogfather and Dogfather LE would qualify as modern versions of the old brush cutter’s trail knife. I’ve never handled a Battle Rat. I do own the BMCG, the Dogfather, and the Dogfather LE.

Horn Dog loves the Dogfather LE as a lightweight chopper and vine trimmer. I live in the Pacific Northwest, not in a swamp. So I think both versions of the Dogfather are just fine. In my opinion the BMCG is too heavy, even in my neck of the woods. Excess weight to carry, and unnecessarily tiring for long term chopping. I’m hoping that the Bushwacker will turn out to be the trail-knife that the BMCG should have been. A top quality, light weight, long trail knife, useful for many purposes in the woods.

I do hope it will come with the no-choil option. A ten-inch knife is too long for a choil to be a useful feature. All it accomplishes is to keep the near end of the blade far away from the grip, reducing the usefulness of that cutting edge for fine carving tasks.

Thanks, Implume. I LOVE THIS POST! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Whether or not the reader agrees with the author's position, it makes a compelling case for the trail knife and stands in contrast to the Nessmuk trinity system of woodsmanship. I'm curious to know if the author feels that a trail knife is sufficient to handle all woodsmanship chores or if he believes a second, smaller knife is also needed for fine cutting tasks.

Woodcrafting is mostly advice aimed at the lumberjack or forest ranger, rather than the ultra light wilderness hiker.

Axe, froe and hand maul, beetle, wedge, brush hook, adze, two man crosscut saws, (AKA misery whips, don’t drag your feet ), hand brush hook, Pulaski’s, sawbucks and bucksaws, draw knife and shaving horse, barking spud and crooked knife, and yes, a smaller personal knife was carried. (Note that the quote refers to the trail knife as an oversized hunting knife.)

This was written in the days when old fashioned logging was a pragmatic business. Set up a camp, build a bunkhouse and tool shed and camp kitchen, make everything you can from the materials at hand. You had to, because labor was still cheaper than materials. Buying stuff cost the company money. The right tool for the job, without unnecessary ornature, was the rule.

I understand this way of thinking because I used to make my living in construction. By my day the work was high tech compared to working in the woods in the 1940’s. But the hard line pragmatism was identical.

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Re: Bushwhacker battle mistress... #372785 10/24/09 11:24 AM
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Yep. People who use machetes exclusively are either really good with them or missing appendages. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I think a really good case could be made for a Bushwacker Mistress and a SAK or Multitool as the ideal camping/survival setup.

I was hoping the Bushwacker would be longer and more machete-like. What can it do that my M9LE can't do? Or my DFLE for that matter. I was hoping for a 12" long 3/16" thick blade. Actually, a 1/8" thick blade would be even better. I just don't think the Bushwacker will be much different in the hand than the full flat grind M9LE. A machete or "long knife" and a SAK is the ultimate swamp combo for down here.


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