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Re: Dagger ? [Re: MustardMan] #375522 11/08/09 01:43 PM
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A dagger would be very cool.


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Re: Dagger ? [Re: MustardMan] #375523 11/08/09 10:45 PM
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Not sure if that earlier link had the name or not, but it's called the BOSC ID - that's busse old school custom integral dagger.

The blade,handle tang, butt cap, and guard are all machined from a large solid billet of INFI, with the inlaid handle scales the only thing not made from INFI. It's a little small in person but easily the most gorgeous Busse I've ever seen, and I saw a lot of awesome customs at that show

I have to agree about the beauty of that knife...oooooh its a looker, oh yea and a user <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Dagger ? #375524 11/09/09 12:11 AM
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Only problem with double-edged blades is that they're illegal in many states . . . including mine. Only way to get around that would be to make two versions . . . one single-edged and one double-edged. That way everybody who wanted one could get one.

By the way, that's exactly what Boker does for the AF-12. AF-12s sold in CA are single-edged.


Double edged blades are NOT illegal in California(local laws may differ, but the State does not ban them). They are only illegal if they are carried concealed.

http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/knifelaw.html

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Parts of Penal Code 12020 cover street carry of knives. It also flat bans some types.

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses...any ballistic knife...any nunchaku...any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken [ed: "throwing star"]...any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag. [Ed. Note: this is the paragraph covering "what you cannot own at all" - some of it is downright weird. Plastic/ceramic knives that can go through a metal detector are also banned somewhere in PC12020.]
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(4) Carries concealed upon his or her person any dirk or dagger.
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(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position. [Ed. note: so if it's a PC653k-legal knife, and it's carried concealed while folded, it's not "readily available" and therefore doesn't meet the "dirk or dagger definition". ONLY "dirks or daggers" need to be open-carry.]
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25(d) Knives carried in sheaths which are worn openly suspended from the waist of the wearer are not concealed within the meaning of this section.

Part 25(d) applies to "dirks or daggers" that must be open carried. It is VERY confusing in that it is an example of legal open carry, but not the only possible "recipe".

[color:"red"]Nowhere in any of this is there a length limit, or a ban on double-edge. Note the way "dirk or dagger" is completely re-defined ("readily available stabbing implement"). [/color]

For what it's worth it is a common misconception in California that double edged blades are illegal. I've even had cops tell me that until I talked them into looking it up. I think the old law did define them as daggers, but they decided to revamp the meaning of dagger to make it more broad and actually allowed knives previously banned. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Dagger ? [Re: tedwca] #375525 11/09/09 12:45 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering if I could carry a fixed knife on my belt without breaking the law.


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Re: Dagger ? [Re: Walker] #375526 11/09/09 11:28 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering if I could carry a fixed knife on my belt without breaking the law.

There is an older guy here in town who carries a sword with him on his daily walks. People call the cops on him all the time, but they cannot do anything to him since it's legal to carry a sword on your belt here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Dagger ? [Re: Horn Dog] #375528 11/09/09 01:56 PM
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Make the dagger the evil twin of the Regulator Bowie. Make it a broad double edged Arkansas toothpick.

I'm with Horn Dog on this one - bring it!

Re: Dagger ? [Re: Smitty] #375529 11/09/09 02:27 PM
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Make the dagger the evil twin of the Regulator Bowie. Make it a broad double edged Arkansas toothpick.

I'm with Horn Dog on this one - bring it!

I would be all over that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Dagger ? #375530 11/09/09 03:44 PM
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Welcome to LaLa Land:

http://www.ordlink.com/codes/lacounty/_DATA/TITLE13/Chapter_13_62_CARRYING_KNIVES_.html#1

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Perhaps you should start, "The Cult of the Dagger" then you could carry a dagger for religious reasons. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I'm soooo glad I'm in N. CA. I'd rather be in AZ or even TX, but I'm stuck here. TX has weird bowie knife laws though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Dagger ? [Re: banana-clip] #375531 11/09/09 04:56 PM
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Jerry did a version of the Fairbairn Sykes Commando Dagger ages ago. I believe it now lives with Skunk. It is truly badass.

I'd love a Bussekin dagger something bigger and more basic and tactical than the Busse ID pictured earlier in the thread.

Re: Dagger ? [Re: RoyalM] #375532 11/09/09 08:37 PM
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Re: Dagger ? [Re: jforbush] #375533 11/09/09 09:41 PM
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How about a wasp waisted dagger, similar to the Gerber MkII,around 6" or so in blad length, but .250" thick, no serrations, SR-77 with maybe a chisel or penetrator tip and coffin shaped Res-C Mudders....

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I'm in for one.


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