depends if you're on the receiving end or not.

I have 10 and 12 round mags for it. I need a few more 10 rounders though.

I put 25 or so rounds through it before mod'ing it. Putting on the ACE stock requires cutting the tab off of the rear trunion. It's kind of a once you commit you are in sort of thing. It's very much like any semi-auto 12 guage in term of kick. We just finished my dad's up today.

My dad has been researching this conversion and gathering the parts for a few months now. He was pumped on doing the conversion and he "had some spare parts" so I was down.

The only real PITA's are the amount of dremel work in cutting the stock adapter and that darn pin retainer for the trigger group.

You need to remove a fair amount of aluminum from the standard ACE adapter. Also, I did not like the fact that there is only one bolt (on top) holding the stock adapter in to the receiver. I believe others just fill in the extra holes in the receiver or just leave them open. I did not like having one bolt so I drilled and tapped the adapter and put 4 screws in these "extra holes". If I had not done that piece, I could have saved about an hour and half of work, but I know that stock is solid.

You need to do some dremel work on the hammer as well although this is not too bad. I used a double hook trigger so I had to dremel on the reciever accordingly again this was not too bad but takes time.

Another pain in the neck was getting the pin retainer in to cature the pins that hold in the FCG. I first tried to mod a standard AK part and failed miserably. I then ordered the correct part and it took about 10 minutes. Oh well, one of those RTFM things.

I would do it again mainly because I enjoy this sort of stuff. We did my saiga, my dad's and we will be doing a friends soon as well.

If I had never done any rifle work, then I probably would not have attempted this.

They are single. The mag could double as an impact tool.

How does it group with slugs ?

Perhaps a 50 yard target photo if you can make it to the range ?

Very nice Beasts of Burden!

Very cool project

I will. I have some special rounds I am going to put through it. We will be hitting up the desert to do a test session on the Saiga 12's and some other projects. I will post pics.

have fun shootin.