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Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. #390171 02/15/10 05:04 AM
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What has been highlighted here is that you should only split wood that is small enough to leave room for batoning on both sides of the piece being split. If not, you run the risk of damaging your handle, or your hand, or worse yet, possibly spilling your beer!

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Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. [Re: Private Klink] #390172 02/15/10 05:43 AM
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this is the only time i'll chyme in on this, when i keep hearing about people saying that they're going to damage the guard batoning wood, i can't help thinking, you're doing it wrong.


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Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. [Re: ThePitsBro52] #390173 02/15/10 06:12 AM
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this is the only time i'll chyme in on this, when i keep hearing about people saying that they're going to damage the guard batoning wood, i can't help thinking, you're doing it wrong.

I’ve split a LOT of wood, and I’ve never damaged a res-c handle. If it hits a knot and tries to rotate, I just muscle down on the handle and force it back toward where it should be and “fight it” from rotating. If it gets stuck in a knot you can’t baton through (only happened to me a couple times) there are a couple ways you can get it back out without damaging the handle.

1. You can use another knife and carve some wedges. Use a baton to drive them into the split near the knife, widening the gap so you can remove your knife.

2. If you’re camping and have a towel or similar piece of cloth, you can wrap it around the handle to protect it, then beat it out with a baton.

3. If you don’t have something to wrap the handle with, you can turn the piece of wood upside-down and kick at the handle with your shoe until you back it out.


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Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. [Re: Dumpster Dan] #390174 02/15/10 12:41 PM
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A raised thumb ramp will NOT stop a blade from rotating into a log that is being split. If you are splitting a log that is too large then this will ALWAYS be a potential problem


no, it won't prevent the blade from rotating, but it will protect the handle when the blade rotates. Again, maybe it wasn't the clearest because I am typing on a phone, but the point I was making is that, since the SOD has no guard on top, the thumb ramp is enough to protect the handle if the blade rotates - if the blade spins, the first thing to make contact with the log is likely to be the thumb ramp, and not the res c. With the regulator, all I think you would need to accomplish the same protection with the guard on top would be to add a protrusion of metal in front of the res-c, similar to the one in between the choil and handle on the sod. Since the blade blanks are probably already cut, this might be impractical, which is why I also suggested the battle guard style with a separate piece of metal. This is most likely what I will try to do with mine if I ever get around to modding it.


And I also regularly baton with knives that are too long to hit the blade on both sides of the log - Andy described most of the best techniques for dealing with a stuck blade, but I usually just muscle it back to straight, and give it another whack on the tip.

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Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. #390176 02/15/10 01:00 PM
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I don't consider the regulator a chopper either, but what I do consider it to be is a knife that is perhaps more versatile than a camp tramp or sod. The reason I say this is that the regulator can certainly chop, and nearly as well as the sod, and other than the guard issue (easily fixed by cutting the top guard off), it batons extremely well.

Where it beats dedicated choppers, though, is tip and detail work. Because the blade is thick, it's more comfortable in a pinch grip, and because of the way the tip is tapered, you can do some pretty intricate carving and bushcraft with the tip, which is surprising for such a big, thick blade. And for tip work specifically, the regulator bests pretty much every knife I own. For drilling, or prying fatwood chunks out of a log, the regulator whoops the butt of a dedicated chopper.

I chop when I need to, but I like the variety of other tasks the regulator is capable of. That is why I prefer it as a camp knife over many dedicated choppers (guard issues notwithstanding)

Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. #390177 02/15/10 01:05 PM
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Good information on the regulator changes. I'm sure I'll be getting at least one black/black, maybe two if the green/green or was it green/sage of the first design is offered. Any news from the Swamp on the up coming release?


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Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. [Re: sr77dogg] #390178 02/15/10 01:14 PM
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I just went back and read this whole thread (after posting, of course <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />), and frankly i have not really seen much in the way of negativity or personal attacks, maybe some strong opinions, but Dan's responses have been tolerant and humorous. And it seems to me that people are sharing their differences of opinion with mutual respect and tolerance - maybe there have been nasty PMs that i don't know about? but then that's what a PM is for, no? I dunno, then again, maybe i'm just too thick to see it - but i have been impressed with everyone's decorum. Just one opinion... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> MM Made a great distinction between criticism and hostility - if we can't be critical then we can't be honest, but honest criticism seems (to me) very different than negativity, or hostility that gets personal... It feels good here to me, after being elsewhere for a while (of course, maybe that means i'm the one with my neck in a noose and don't even know it, lol)... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/footinmouth.gif" alt="" />

Agreed! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Good discussions will benefit all of us and they won't always be positive, but as long as they remain civil, they are a good thing. What we don't want to become are a bunch of fanboys that will defend anything SY just because its SY. That wouldn't benefit Dan and it surely would not benefit any of us.

That said, Thanks to Dan for another great knife. I liked the TT edition and I believe the changes made to the production version will prove to be good decisions. I plan to buy more than one when they are available.


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Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. [Re: jackell] #390180 02/15/10 01:15 PM
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How much did the TT regulator originally sell for, and how does one get to get in on those type of offers?

BTW from what I see I like the new version better!

Re: A Look At The Changes We MadeTo The Regulator. [Re: KnotSlip] #390181 02/15/10 01:20 PM
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I just went back and read this whole thread (after posting, of course <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />), and frankly i have not really seen much in the way of negativity or personal attacks, maybe some strong opinions, but Dan's responses have been tolerant and humorous. And it seems to me that people are sharing their differences of opinion with mutual respect and tolerance - maybe there have been nasty PMs that i don't know about? but then that's what a PM is for, no? I dunno, then again, maybe i'm just too thick to see it - but i have been impressed with everyone's decorum. Just one opinion... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> MM Made a great distinction between criticism and hostility - if we can't be critical then we can't be honest, but honest criticism seems (to me) very different than negativity, or hostility that gets personal... It feels good here to me, after being elsewhere for a while (of course, maybe that means i'm the one with my neck in a noose and don't even know it, lol)... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/footinmouth.gif" alt="" />

Agreed! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Good discussions will benefit all of us and they won't always be positive, but as long as they remain civil, they are a good thing. What we don't want to become are a bunch of fanboys that will defend anything SY just because its SY. That wouldn't benefit Dan and it surely would not benefit any of us.

That said, Thanks to Dan for another great knife. I liked the TT edition and I believe the changes made to the production version will prove to be good decisions. I plan to buy more than one when they are available.

I should of added that while I understand MM's and Bruce's remarks/criticisms - I think the point is that, eventually, you just have to let it go. No need in repeatedly making your points. I do enjoy reading your posts though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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A raised thumb ramp will NOT stop a blade from rotating into a log that is being split. If you are splitting a log that is too large then this will ALWAYS be a potential problem


no, it won't prevent the blade from rotating, but it will protect the handle when the blade rotates. Again, maybe it wasn't the clearest because I am typing on a phone, but the point I was making is that, since the SOD has no guard on top, the thumb ramp is enough to protect the handle if the blade rotates - if the blade spins, the first thing to make contact with the log is likely to be the thumb ramp, and not the res c. With the regulator, all I think you would need to accomplish the same protection with the guard on top would be to add a protrusion of metal in front of the res-c, similar to the one in between the choil and handle on the sod. Since the blade blanks are probably already cut, this might be impractical, which is why I also suggested the battle guard style with a separate piece of metal. This is most likely what I will try to do with mine if I ever get around to modding it.


And I also regularly baton with knives that are too long to hit the blade on both sides of the log - Andy described most of the best techniques for dealing with a stuck blade, but I usually just muscle it back to straight, and give it another whack on the tip.

I agree with Dan on the thumb ramp. Go try it with a thumb-ramped knife. If the handle rotates upward, a thumb ramp (as I picture a thumb ramp => being the same thickness as the spine) will not prevent such Res-C guard from hitting the wood. The ramp would slide right through the opening created by the blade. However, a "SR Battle Guard" style would. For such a knife, I have purchased other brands.

For some reason when I baton/split wood with a knife, the wood does not just close back together above the blade as it passes through. Does that happen for you so that a thumb ramp would stop it?

My comments sent to Dan (and pasted elsewhere in this forum) regarding dual blade catches would not solve your batoning dilemma either, but I still want(ed) them. He didn't go with that idea or my other ideas...at least not yet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Oh well, I still like the TT Regulator and the looks of the newer rendition. I look forward to purchasing a few.

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