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#425983 - 04/22/10 07:59 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: Lord Mortdecai]
kuanomar Offline
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Wow, I cannot wait for the BOB thread.

You said that you used to contribute to other forums. Please, if we start down the same road that led to your desire to stop sharing at those other forums, let us know. There's still so much to learn.
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#425984 - 04/22/10 08:05 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: kuanomar]
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K - deal
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#425985 - 04/22/10 08:07 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: Lord Mortdecai]
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Thanks Arch.
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#425986 - 04/22/10 10:54 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: kuanomar]
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Registered: 04/10/10
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Wow suddenly I feel way less prepared then I thought I was. Thanks for the post, it was extremely enlightening
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#425987 - 04/22/10 10:56 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: El CacaFuego]
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Yes, it is humbling.

We all have a budget and time limitations. Some of us are beginners. It sure is good to see the experienced ones and their kits. It helps cut through the hype and get the gear and practice.


Although, I still fall for hype.
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#425988 - 04/23/10 02:32 AM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: Lord Mortdecai]
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Registered: 04/22/10
Posts: 248
Loc: Oklahoma
All I have to say is WOW! This is an awesome thread! I have been needing to get a BOB put together but had never thought of putting together a GHB or PSK! I'm sure you can tell that I am a novice when it comes to this stuff. It has been said a few times in this thread already but I am going to say it again, Thank you Architect! The detail that you have here is really going to help me put together a PSK and GHB! And I am looking forward to seeing your BOB! AWESOME! THANKS!

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#425989 - 04/23/10 12:27 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: Stevo8720]
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Thanks everyone - the accolades are what's humbling here .

The response to this thread has been outstanding so I won't feel like I'm squandering my time by creating a "BOB" thread. This will take some time though, as my BOB is more comprehensive than my GHB.

I would also recommend that you look up my "sister" GHB thread at the Swamp, because many valuable questions have been addressed there.

The fact that you're all getting interested in PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY (ie - Big Bro is NOT going to be there to save you) is totally awesome. The following info is taken from a comment I made in my thread over at SwampRat's RatChat forum, but the content is applicable to those of you starting out (or refining your plans)....
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#425990 - 04/23/10 12:27 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: Lord Mortdecai]
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PLAN #1 = Get home and stay home.

PLAN #2 = Evacuate only when required.

Plan #2 requires careful planning, and training. You must not become another one of the countless "refugees" wondering around after a disaster. You might be shot as a looter or rounded up and taken to a FEMA camp [Yikes] . You have to determine where you're going to go; how long it will take to get there (on foot if necessary); what you'll need to get you there; what you'll need once you're there.

Plan #2 can be solved in two ways:

Option A = have a relative a safe distance from your residence that is "of like mind" who will allow you store gear at their house. This person(s) should have their own gear or your stuff will be raided. The "Bug Out" only requires that you make it to their place safely.

Option B = Cache. You'll need to find a place (safe distance from your home) that you can cache supplies for use as a "retreat" location.

While I grew up idolizing the RED DAWN scenario, it is completely unrealistic for 99.99999% of us.
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#425991 - 04/23/10 12:27 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: Lord Mortdecai]
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My planning method (and this DOES NOT hijack my thread because it was used to prepare my GHB) is thus:

1) Write out all of the possible situations you will be tasked with surviving.

2) Write out who you are responsible for.

3) Write out what you will ALL need to survive your list of disasters while taking into consideration individual needs (medical care; etc).

4) Write a draft strategy (e.g. PROBLEM: "Chemical Spill on nearby train tracks" SOLUTION: Evacuate to "John Smith's" house with 72Hr Kit).

5) Develop a list of needed goods from the four above issues (e.g. 72Hr Kit....Water filter; Lighter.....)

6) Refine your kit and plan as your learn and TEST / PRACTICE!!!!! If you're 4'-4" tall and weigh 600 pounds do not expect to walk that 150 miles to Grandma's!!!!!

I also recommend the following book for those getting started:

James Wesley Rawles "TEOTWAWKI". This book doesn't cover things like which bugs to eat. Its more of a "philosophical" overview with some focus on areas that require planning. Its inexpensive and informative. As with all things - eat the meat and spit out the bones (JW Rawles spends too much time on overpriced commo devices in this particular book).
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#425992 - 04/23/10 12:28 PM Re: My PSK & Get-Home-Bag (Lots of Pics) [Re: Lord Mortdecai]
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After thinking about the matter more, I believe there is a need for three split threads:

1) Getting Home.
2) Bugging-In.
3) Bugging-Out.

All three are interrelated, but too specialized / complex to handle within one thread frame work. I'll gladly start one for the other two topics, and will answer Getting Home questions in this thread.

We can all read books and/or websites full of "lists of gear" that we "need" to survive. However, if you follow those lists you'll end up like me several years ago. I had a 71# ruck without a drop of water in it. Obviously this was stupid, but it happened because I didn't evaluate my own needs - and didn't learn skills / test my skills enough to know what was practical.

Its more interesting to ask someone what boots they wear than WHY they feel the need to wear boots everyday.

For example...

I wear ALTAMA LiteSpeed tactical boots everyday to work (while most people in my role would wear some sort of "loafer" shoe). Why did I choose those boots? Both pairs I've owned have been durable, and comfortable enough to run in. The tread is equally well suited to urban and rural terrain, and the ability to quickly ingress/egress from them (due to a side zipper) while they still have great ankle support makes them a "tier one" boot IMHO.

But WHY do I wear boots to work?

My pre-planning determined that if something happens I might need to navigate through collapsed buildings; or broken terrain to get home. Additionally, they offer greater protection during day-to-day life. (Side note: I CRINGE every time I see somebody wearing flip-flops in public. Think about all of the broken glass on Wal-Mart's floor if an earthquake hits...).

A big mistake people make is trying to buy everything on someone else's list. You need to determine your crisis situations, and what you need to do to mitigate them. Boil down a plan and gear list from that ... test your plan and train ... and you WILL survive.


Edited by Architect (04/23/10 12:33 PM)
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