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Re: I think we need a Parang ! [Re: sumoj275] #434941 09/15/10 08:11 PM
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This would be a great tool. I like the idea of a thin rough-finished SR77 blade and plain rec-c handle with lots of room, mayabe just big enough for two hand.

I'm not a knifemaker, but would a golok shape be easier? I like the martindale #2 that other's mentioned.

Re: I think we need a Parang ! [Re: RN] #434942 09/16/10 09:04 PM
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Hey Steelfan, what's your name on BF? Did you snag the HI Parang recently? Probably will sell mine post chop off I have coming...a bit heavier than what I was hoping for...wanted one a bit more whippy like Vic's.

RN, my BF name is PeterPHWS and my Parang came through a company called Valiant who import them to Australia from Indonesia .... I expect HI get there's via Valiant too as the work looks very similar.

The Parang v the Golok debate is a long running one for me ... in the British Army we get issued the Martindale Golok ... it has a softish steel too ...takes an initial good edge but it does'nt last long ... for this reason if you go to the BTT ( Brunei Training Team ) for either a Jungle Warfare Instructor's Course or a Long Range Recon Patrol Course or as part of S/F selection you can buy a locally made Parang which is similar in shape to the Parang Bandol but has a wooden handle with a metal guard over the join to the blade to prevent splitting when used a lot on hard wood. The Iban trackers used to help run the courses all prefer these Parang's and for those who want a clear idea of what I mean .... the Parang used by Ray Mears in all his Jungle Episodes comes from here and is the same shape .... these local Parang's seem to have a harder temper and take the keenest of edges.

I think they have some proper heat treating equipment in Serai where they are made near the camp as the demand for these is "constant" with guys rotating in and out on courses and they have a great reputation. These are viewed by guys who have spent their "career's" in the Jungle as the "mutts nuts" as far as Parang's go ... and I am prepared to accept their recommendation ... some of it is in the shape ... some of it in the better heat treatment ... you can take these a lot thinner behind the edge and they don't roll ...

The one I had I sold to a guy going on a course ... they cost about 50$ Brunei and you can get £50+ back in the UK with tales of how hard they are to come by ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> it is an easy way to make £25 but in the end you miss out by not keeping them as unless you know someone who can pick you one up again ... your out of luck... and ofcourse selling mine is one of the greatest "regrets" I have ever had ... I am sure mine had a dual temper as it certainly had a hamon line and that is what makes them special ...

My Valiant one is thicker ... usually this is because the HT is at the level where thickness is needed to give some element of strength ... as per HI Khukri's ... or because they are using leaf springs from vehicles it is less work to make them thick ....

Ideally a good Parang is around .22 to .187 thick not the heavy .25+ ... but the main difference is in the temper of the steel ... if you can get a differential temper on the edge which is done right you have "nirvana" ...

The blade can then take the shock of hitting hard wood without shattering and the edge can hold a proper edge to get through it ...

In Brunei there are woods sufficiently hard enough to ruin most blades ... the Martindale Goloks got the name of "Treebeaters" as all they seemed to do was beat up the tree and never had an edge last long enough to get through one ...

Heli LZ's were an explosive job ... chopping a clearing was "purgatory" with the issue Goloks ... you soon started to "worship" your local Parang ... in blister savings alone it was worth "double the price" ( very comfy grip ) ...

LOL ... if Scrapyard did a Scra-Parang in SR101 differentially tempered and with a Res C handle ... (the SR101 so it can take the keenest of edges) ... I reckon you could buy 100 and start a lend lease business in Serai and that could be my "retirement" plan ... because I have'nt got any hopes of surviving off what I will get paid out over here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> ( "Seriously" !! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> )

Re: I think we need a Parang ! [Re: Steel Fan] #434943 09/16/10 09:43 PM
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While not quite as edge holding as SR101, SR77 is still way better than that on my Martindale. It's plenty good enough for a chopper. And it is easy to touch up. A SY Parang in SR77 would be the toughest Parang on the planet! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: I think we need a Parang ! [Re: Horn Dog] #434944 09/16/10 10:57 PM
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I have SR101 but no SR77 yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />. Parang in SR77 would be really nice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

Re: I think we need a Parang ! [Re: LotusBlade] #434945 09/17/10 12:32 AM
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SR77 or SR101 .... they are both great steels for a Parang ....

Let's hope it happens ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Re: I think we need a Parang ! [Re: Steel Fan] #434946 09/24/10 07:23 AM
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I hope this scrapyard parang happens. I have been beating the snot out of my B11. It is the longest blade I have. I think another few inches would be great. I chipped it today which I did not think it would do overall it is great. However I got my dogfather out and I just love that knife. I have beat it and beat it and it is still perfect I like everything about it. If they made a DF three inches longer and called it a parang/machete/golok I would been in and so would everyone.

For a parang blade I would want SR77, I was also looking and think that the regulator handle would probably work well as a parang handle. Just a little curve till the blade starts. It would fit nicely I think.

Re: I think we need a Parang ! [Re: tundratrader] #434947 09/24/10 06:16 PM
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