Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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03/02/11 04:52 AM
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Jeff - told you so <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
JYD #123 The great one formerly known as Architect.
I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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03/03/11 03:09 PM
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Great looking rifles guys! How do you like the low power variable scopes? I prefer my red dots...I'm just not very fast with acquisition. However, I'm really interested in the new SWFA 1-4x FFP that recently came out.
I've got my eye on a BCM Kino...just need to process a little paperwork. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Ishikawa]
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03/07/11 05:34 PM
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Ish, I have owned both RDS (various Aimpoints and EoTechs) and Low-Power-Variables. The RDS is fine for up to 100+/- meters and for really really fast CQB acquisition. The LPV is better for everything else, and also good at CQB / within 100.
The only problem I have with LPV's is the lack of a true 1x setting. I wish they would make one that is actually 1x instead of 1.1x or 1.25x.
If Trijicon's TR24G wasn't an $800 optic in a $200 mount I'd have them on everything that currently has an EoTech on it. As it stands, I only have two Trijicon Accupoints and two EoTechs.
JYD #123 The great one formerly known as Architect.
I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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03/07/11 09:19 PM
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Ish, I have owned both RDS (various Aimpoints and EoTechs) and Low-Power-Variables. The RDS is fine for up to 100+/- meters and for really really fast CQB acquisition. The LPV is better for everything else, and also good at CQB / within 100.
The only problem I have with LPV's is the lack of a true 1x setting. I wish they would make one that is actually 1x instead of 1.1x or 1.25x.
If Trijicon's TR24G wasn't an $800 optic in a $200 mount I'd have them on everything that currently has an EoTech on it. As it stands, I only have two Trijicon Accupoints and two EoTechs. I agree 1.5x just does not cut it indoors or at up close and personal distances.
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: J33psr0ck]
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03/08/11 04:22 AM
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Thanks guys...
I don't think my comments were very clear. I meant to say that I love the way my T1 allows acquisition in a violent fury of a moment...ie: tracking live targets on the run and keeping awareness of my surroundings (both eyes open). I suppose it depends on the intended use for the given tool. For me...the T1 is just an extremely flexible platform that works ideally for the ranges I would ever expect to engage (0-250). Within 100 yds, I hunt with my AR and am extremely confident of shot placement for clean kills with the T1 setup.
My original question was more oriented around any advantages of the 1-4x systems and what you guys are experiencing. I understand that magnification helps...but for me I can't justify needing 4x versus not being able to acquire targets like a RDS at CQB-75yd distances. I'm curious how you guys can adapt at close range or with moving targets / engaging multiple targets with the 1-4x scopes. Again, I've got my eye on a SWFA 1-4x FFP to try out (or Trijicon)...so i'm curious how it works for you.
I should note I have never participated in a carbine course or other technical training, etc....I mostly use live targets (ie: Hogs) for practice engaging multiple moving targets from 10-100yds....rarely a steady shot, and almost always moving fast.
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Ishikawa]
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03/08/11 05:33 AM
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I can hit steel gongs at 400 yds with my M3 on a regular basis when held right.
Anyone know anything on the Leatherwood 1-4x optic?
Men you can't trust, women you can't trust, beasts you can't trust, but Bussekin steel you can trust
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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03/11/11 02:34 AM
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This brings a tear to my eye
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a man with a new gun.
Nice
Very Nice
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
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03/11/11 03:55 AM
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Architect, Any experience with Spikes Tactical? Mil spec and great prices from what I can see. I like the looks of their ST-16 Mid-Length LE Carbine. Opinion?
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: JavaDog]
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03/12/11 02:45 PM
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Architect, Any experience with Spikes Tactical? Mil spec and great prices from what I can see. I like the looks of their ST-16 Mid-Length LE Carbine. Opinion?
I'm not Arch...but I've had Spike's gear in the past. They make good gear that would probably suit all of your needs, but if you have the cash...just pull the trigger on the BCM. BCM will retain more value. What most people don't realize is that if you actually plan to use the rifle...the cost of upgrading to a tier 1 quality rifle is moot in comparison to the expense of ammo, training, etc over the life of the rifle. Get the best!
JYD #121 The chief cause of unhappiness and failure is trading what you want most in life for what you want at the moment.
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Ishikawa]
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03/12/11 06:18 PM
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Pic Thread! BCM BFH MidLength Lightweight 16"...she's my KISS configuration. Only mod is a Gieselle SSA.
JYD #121 The chief cause of unhappiness and failure is trading what you want most in life for what you want at the moment.
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: Ishikawa]
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04/01/11 01:30 PM
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Hey Architect or anyone else- What's your thoughts on POF America? They seem to come up often in forums as the best AR's out there. Just curious if anyone here has any experience with them and was wondering how they might compare to the likes of BCM and others mentioned in this thread...?
And question about BCM- Can you buy full rifles or just pieces to assemble one? Seems on their site you cannot purchase an assembled rifle.
Thanks.
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Re: The AR15 Thread (PICs too)
[Re: KnotSlip]
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04/01/11 02:17 PM
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Put the BCM to use yesterday. Spotted this big boy about 600 yards away down a rightaway....stalked to within about 60 yards and put him down! Gotta love the TSX's...they have such great penetration <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
JYD #121 The chief cause of unhappiness and failure is trading what you want most in life for what you want at the moment.
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