Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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I got this from an article on Survivaltopics.com and thought it was interesting and might be of interest here.
Use Calcium Hypochlorite for Disinfect Water
A 1-pound pag of calcium hypochlorite in granular form will treat up to 10,000 gallons of drinking water
Calcium hypochlorite is one of the best chemical disinfectants for water, better than household bleach by far. It destroys a variety of disease causing organisms including bacteria, yeast, fungus, spores, and viruses.
Calcium Hypochlorite is widely available for use as swimming pool chlorine tablets or white powder that is much more stable than chlorine. This is often known as “pool shock”. How to Disinfect Water Using Calcium Hypochlorite
Using granular calcium hypochlorite to disinfect water is a two step process.
To make a stock of chlorine solution (do not drink this!) dissolve 1 heaping teaspoon (about one-quarter of an ounce) of high-test (78%) granular calcium hypochlorite for each two gallons (eight liters) of water. To disinfect water add one part of the chlorine solution to 100 parts water to be treated. Let the mixture sit for at least one-half hour before drinking.
Be sure to obtain the dry granular calcium hypochlorite since once it is made into a liquid solution it will begin to degrade and eventually become useless as a disinfecting agent. This also means you should make your treated drinking water in small batches, for example enough for a few weeks at a time at most.
Another plus for using calcium hypochlorite to disinfect water for emergency use is that a little goes a very long way. A 1-pound pag of calcium hypochlorite in granular form typically costs only a few $US dollars and can be obtained in any swimming pool supply section of your hardware store or online. This amount will treat up to 10,000 gallons of drinking water, which is enough for a family of four for some six or seven years at a gallon per day per person!
Calcium hypochlorite will store for a long period of time and remain effective as a chemical drinking water treatment. So get rid of the household bleach and buy a can of Calcium hypochlorite for your disaster emergency water disinfection needs. It lasts far longer and treats far more water than the traditional chlorine bleach water disinfection treatment.
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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07/13/11 12:07 PM
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Good info everyone! Thanks for keeping this important thread alive. Randy - Here's a link to the MSDS sheet on Calium Hypochlorite. (I always like to read the dangers associated with chemicals to be used in an emergency).... http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927478
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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07/13/11 03:10 PM
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Thanks Arch, and WELCOME BACK!
I started reading the sheet and went like HOLY S***! But I guess it really isn't ALL that much worse than bleach, right? And YEAH this is a GREAT thread!
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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07/13/11 03:12 PM
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I got to check out some of this gel you are talking about. I have had the chewable tabs that Skunk is talking about, but I like the idea of a gel a lot better. I found the gel today AND a liquid! Gonna try the gel though, should work out pretty good.
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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(1)The performance gels can be bought with varying levels of caffeine, including no caffeine.
(2)The articles referenced above indicate that caffeine increased glucose levels in studies on Type 2 diabetics.
(3)However, I would not give them a DIET (no sugar) drink or non-sugared coffee. I also would not give them cheeseburgers or pizza UNTIL the blood glucose levels have increased to an appropriate range and the symptoms of the event have subsided.
The form of the sugar is also important.
I wanted to make a few more notes related to my post above. I quoted only the parts somewhat related to this post. (I apologize that the other post is a little hard on the eyes with the formatting.) (1) Skunk, I hope you'll provide some details regarding which gel you chose and your experience after you've used it. (2) FWIW IIRC, the article indicated an 8% increase in blood glucose levels. Almost anything could be blamed for such a small difference. We're talking about the difference between 100mg/dl vs 108mg/dl, or 200mg/dl vs 216mg/dl. You could take ten Type I diabetics, make them keep the exact same activities, exact same insulin doses, exact same schedules, etc., etc., etc. for two weeks and the blood glucose levels could still fluctuate 8% at the same time from day to day. (3) IME and a fairly well-known fact among diabetic specialists, when a Type I diabetic incurs a "severe" hypoglycemic episode which is then countered by simple sugars, a second episode can occur fairly soon IF the person does not take in some fairly complex food (containing complex carbs along with some fats and protein, i.e. cheesburger <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) soon after achieving an accepted blood glucose level after the first episode.
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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BIllyJoe, I only use it when I can not get to another source, I consider them Emergency use only. So Far I have only had to use the glucose "Tablets" 4 times in 6 years. And only had 2 episodes that I can remember where we were in walmart. I drank a regular coke, which got me sugar up to where I was feeling "Normal" again then we got something to eat. My Episodes are NOT severe, When I feel it starting to come on even the slightest I look for something to take, either food or the tablets. But I for one thank you for the information and I am sure other Diabetics here will find it interesting as well.
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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07/18/11 09:54 PM
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In regards to a canteen cup and perhaps the canteen, has anyone tried the NATO Crusader canteen and stove?
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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07/18/11 11:59 PM
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Putting together a new BOB and Rebuilding a Get Home Bag after it got jacked. Anyway, haveing a tough time decideing on S.S. vs Nalgene. The price is much more attractive on the Nalgene, but is it durable enough? The G.I. cup could be used for heating, so no issue there. They allso have a oasis Tritan canteen with a 38mm opening. Don't know if it is G.I. spec for thread size. Allso having a tough time finding weights on the Nalgene, but would assume that they are lighter. What are your thoughts guys?
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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PERSONALLY I like the SS better, more durable than plastic, and if you get something like the Kleen Kanteen (only plastic is the stopper) you could boil water in it. OR as you indicated, the GI or GI type (probably be the same size if listed as 1qt. would fit in the SS canteen cup.
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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Putting together a new BOB and Rebuilding a Get Home Bag after it got jacked. Anyway, haveing a tough time decideing on S.S. vs Nalgene. The price is much more attractive on the Nalgene, but is it durable enough? The G.I. cup could be used for heating, so no issue there. They allso have a oasis Tritan canteen with a 38mm opening. Don't know if it is G.I. spec for thread size. Allso having a tough time finding weights on the Nalgene, but would assume that they are lighter. What are your thoughts guys? Just read back and saw mention thet th GI threads are 28mm
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description
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07/31/11 08:29 PM
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Interesting Post Bill. That could be some good stuff if it works as advertised. All I read was the cover pages. Oh and howdy!
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