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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: Steeley] #586303 07/31/11 03:42 PM
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Both are great steels, especially when combined with the Busse Kin heat treat. Most users would notice very little difference, in performance. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: Rainwalker] #586304 07/31/11 06:26 PM
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It's nice to know what to expect from the knives, and from what I understand, you're good either way.
Some INFI will, also come my way, some day, I suspect.


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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: Rasmus] #586305 07/31/11 06:58 PM
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I don't know enough about the difference between them or really need to for my needs, I just what some of each. The war dog is my infi blade and I don't know if I want more based on the price of most infi knives.


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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: cazio] #586306 07/31/11 10:53 PM
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Rasmus, Seelow, and Domino: Welcome!

I have only beat up the INFI. Can't comment on the others.


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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: ToboTech] #586307 08/02/11 06:30 PM
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my favorite of the 3 steels is SR-101, it strops very easy and hold a edge great! INFI does this to and is more corrostion resistance, but I have more experiance with SR-101 so thtas my vote. I only have 4 INFI blades, war dog Scrapper 5 LE and a Boss Street and a Boss Jack. They say big blades of INFI is where you really see it shine, Mine are all small to medium

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my favorite of the 3 steels is SR-101, it strops very easy and hold a edge great! INFI does this to and is more corrostion resistance, but I have more experiance with SR-101 so thtas my vote. I only have 4 INFI blades, war dog Scrapper 5 LE and a Boss Street and a Boss Jack. They say big blades of INFI is where you really see it shine, Mine are all small to medium

Before stropping, which means of sharpening do you use? I am looking af a Lansky universal system, but don't know if it is the way to go.
And how do you like the Boss Jack? I am considering buying that one. From what I understand it is in stock on the Busse order page...


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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: Rasmus] #586309 08/02/11 08:16 PM
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I have a Lansky system, that I don't use anymore. I'm not a big fan for a few reasons. One is the tediousness of using it on longer blades (over 5" or so). You have to move the clamp (can mark the blade) and work in sections. Two is the instability of the mount, and three is the fact that you are driving you fingers towards the blade. I have slipped off the stone and cut my knuckle badly. Oil + plastic doesn't make for a secure grip.

I use mousepad and sandpaper/3M microabrasive film before stropping or a Spyderco Sharpmaker.

Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: Rasmus] #586310 08/02/11 09:07 PM
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my favorite of the 3 steels is SR-101, it strops very easy and hold a edge great! INFI does this to and is more corrostion resistance, but I have more experiance with SR-101 so thtas my vote. I only have 4 INFI blades, war dog Scrapper 5 LE and a Boss Street and a Boss Jack. They say big blades of INFI is where you really see it shine, Mine are all small to medium

Before stropping, which means of sharpening do you use? I am looking af a Lansky universal system, but don't know if it is the way to go.
And how do you like the Boss Jack? I am considering buying that one. From what I understand it is in stock on the Busse order page...

Here is my simple process and I have had great results with all steels. This is D2, but my 1095 and SR101 has really surprised me at 10 degrees per side. I suck at convexing and this method is what works for me, you should really try different methods, but be aware of gimmicks when it comes to sharpening. If you can get a good benchstone or two, you can be set for life and once the learning curve is over with and you can get a good constant angle, maintenance is a breeze!

Originally Posted by marthinus;9856035
Well here is my process and my simple tools. With a good set of diamond stones, time and effort to learn you can get great results!

I recently noticed while playing with the benchstone and a piece of plank that it seemed to be a good angle at around 5 degrees. After some measurement this is what I came up with:
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Now the reason for this is due to a video done by another member on various forums.
Here is a link to his great adjustable sharpening platform:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXhrqfV5jvs

My method is very similar, except after watching videos of the Bubble Jig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jp5NLNmMe2Y

I decided to incorporate something similar till I can afford the real Bubble Jig.
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The secret is to get a good burr going. This is D2 steel on my Becnhmade Bone Collector profiled to 10 degrees per side.

Good burr
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Edge all the way sharpened
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No burr, and not hitting the entire edge: BAD!
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Then I knock the burr of with white ceramic stone of Lansky
[img]http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz325/geronki2/2011/P5170034.jpg[/img]

Then strop.
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Results
[img]http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz325/geronki2/2011/P5170044.jpg[/img]

Under 25X times magnification
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In the field I use a diamond paddle 600 grit or Lansky Turn box kit. Usually I just use the paddle and lightly knock the bur off.
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Total edge reprofiling: Can take up to 2 hours.
Edge maintenance. Less then 10 minutes to same results as above. In the field the same time. (this can vary depending on the damage to the edge and DONT STOP UNTIL YOU FEEL THE BURR)

Reasons I started with this low angle and constant low angle.
Well here is a video.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ewerstruly#p/c/299E614F6D3C94DD/6/u4rDIFFyXVk
It requires less force to cut through material.

and I read the book
The Razor Edge Book of Sharpening.
Here is a website where you can get the book.
http://www.razoredgesystems.com/products/books

DMT stones will make the process much faster IMO and of course, this is my process for my needs. I convex certain knives, but EDC and hunting knives are as thin as possible. Your needs may vary, but remember when sharpening.....GET THE BURR!

Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: marthinus] #586311 08/02/11 09:11 PM
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O, here is the result on Sr101 on the Rodent Solution
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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: marthinus] #586312 08/03/11 05:18 PM
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Cool, thanks! Very grafic. I will get on with. I have a couple of knives I can use to test and get better. Seem like you are well into it, so it should help me on the way.


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Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: Rasmus] #586313 08/03/11 05:39 PM
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my favorite of the 3 steels is SR-101, it strops very easy and hold a edge great! INFI does this to and is more corrostion resistance, but I have more experiance with SR-101 so thtas my vote. I only have 4 INFI blades, war dog Scrapper 5 LE and a Boss Street and a Boss Jack. They say big blades of INFI is where you really see it shine, Mine are all small to medium

Before stropping, which means of sharpening do you use? I am looking af a Lansky universal system, but don't know if it is the way to go.
And how do you like the Boss Jack? I am considering buying that one. From what I understand it is in stock on the Busse order page...

I LOVE THE BOSS JACK! I would get a second if I didnt order a Basic 6 LE.O usually use fine grit diamond then ceramic then strop. sometimes I will use sand paper before stropping.

Re: Sr-77 compared to Sr-101 [Re: cut it out] #586314 08/03/11 09:12 PM
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The Basic 6 is also quite tempting to me. Plus it is cheaper! The ordering just seems like a huge hastle... But I should make the effort, and get the ordering done with, cus the Basic 6 is just my kind of knife.


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