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Re: New Member [Re: SPEICHER] #7281 11/08/06 01:34 AM
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Re: New Member [Re: Gravelface] #7282 11/08/06 02:30 AM
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Something about laminated steel just make me want to move on to the next vendor.

On a mongo chopper, I totally agree. On a small knife, it can be neat.


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Re: New Member [Re: thombrogan] #7283 11/08/06 03:50 AM
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"Mongo" Chopper? What benefits would a smaller blade offer....from what I have read the CS standard center AUS8 is fecal matter....do you have a brand that offers a quality laminated blade or if you were to design your own, how would you have it put together?


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Re: New Member [Re: Gravelface] #7284 11/08/06 04:59 AM
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For small blades, I guess those Spydercos with laminated (with 420, I think) ZDP-189 or the Mcusta laminated VG-10 from Japan. The mcusta looks a lot like damascus, pretty handsome.

Re: New Member [Re: Gravelface] #7285 11/08/06 11:27 AM
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What benefits would a smaller blade offer....

In kitchen cutting and day-to-day cutting, a thinner and harder blade usually offers an edge that will last longer and cut with less force than softer and thicker counterparts. Since you only need the edge to be hard, having the surrounding metal be soft is good for both the user and manufacturer. For the user, when the sides are too thick to allow for low-force cutting, it's easier to hog off lots of softer steel than say ZDP-189 or S30V (been there too often <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> ). For the manufacturer, it allows the knife to be stamped into shape instead of cut into shape (easier and often less wasteful) which may not lower the price, but would lower the manufacturing time (for knifeknuts that gotsa have it now).

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from what I have read the CS standard center AUS8 is fecal matter....

I've read both good and bad. In a knife used for chopping and entertainment, I wouldn't want any stainless steel (maybe H1, but I've never chopped with it). CS usually runs their unlaminated AUS-8A sort of soft, but that works great with their serrated knives.

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do you have a brand that offers a quality laminated blade

Spyderco and Fallkniven both offer high-quality laminated blades. I have a Fallkniven U2 pocket folding knife that is a pleasure to use and many folks enjoy Spyderco's laminated Calypso Junior and Jess Horn with ZDP-189 core (I've got a ZDP-189 Delica from Spyderco, but it's not laminated. Thinning its edge on a benchstone took a few nights.)


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Re: New Member [Re: x] #7286 11/08/06 11:27 AM
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SPEICHER: It is good to see you here too!! Welcome!!


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Re: New Member [Re: TKC] #7287 11/08/06 02:22 PM
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Thanks TKC...its good to be here


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Re: New Member [Re: SPEICHER] #7288 11/08/06 10:28 PM
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I always wonder with laminated knives what happens if you are prying or really knocking hell out of something.. That must set up internal stresses between the strata (what if a poor weld wasn't picked up in the factory???).

While I think I'd rather have the INFI Scrapper 9, what do you guys think of Extrema Ratio knives in particular the big ones- and more importantly.. anyone tried to 'kill' one yet?


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Re: New Member [Re: Gravelface] #7289 11/09/06 01:44 AM
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Well, maybe I am the minority here, but I wanted a CS Trail Master. I think they look great.

Yeah, they look nice, but we're users, not collectors, so performance is more important than looks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Cliff Stamp did a review of them if you haven't seen it. After only a couple weeks the handle failed and could be rotated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />


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Extrema Ratio knives in particular the big ones- and more importantly.. anyone tried to 'kill' one yet?

Cliff Stamp also did a review on a Extrema Ratio pocketknife, the Fulcrum IID. If you wanna see it, the link is: Extrema Ratio Fulcrum IID


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Re: New Member [Re: Paul the Brit'] #7291 11/09/06 03:22 AM
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I had two Extrema Ratio folders. Not for me. Stainless and thick aren't a useful match. Laminated and prying, regardless of welds, wouldn't be fun if the edge is really hard (the whole point of a laminated blade...) and a waste of laminating if the blade is soft.


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Re: New Member [Re: Andy Wayne] #7292 11/09/06 04:42 PM
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if you haven't seen it. After only a couple weeks the handle failed and could be rotated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I think the TrailMaster would have been better served with scales, if they wouldnt use the Res-C


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