Re: Systema
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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11/21/12 03:49 PM
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littlematt
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Well I'm sure there are some 45 year olds practicing it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> me too!
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Re: Systema
[Re: littlematt]
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11/21/12 09:35 PM
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monsterdog
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Flux, you should have asked to see his piece. Probably didn't have one considering the gun laws up there and the fact that all criminals are known to follow the law <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
This sysrema sounds a lot like krav maga to me too. Is it similar?
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Re: Systema
[Re: monsterdog]
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11/21/12 10:35 PM
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Flux, you should have asked to see his piece. Probably didn't have one considering the gun laws up there and the fact that all criminals are known to follow the law <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
This sysrema sounds a lot like krav maga to me too. Is it similar? You're right, I don't think he had a piece, although he definitely seemed the type not to care too much about gun laws. I think he would've shot at me if he did. The guy was a good deal bigger than me and likely high on Crack or something, so I still think running was the right choice. He ran after me, but I was fast enough to get to the end of the block where there were a lot of commuters and a cop down the street. I don't know much about Krav Maga. Systema focuses on the use of improvisation. It's less about memorizing a set of moves and more about how to react to an attack. A lot of it has to do with learning how to move your core to deflect an attack and then using pressure points, rather than brute strength, to disarm, take down and counterattack. Seeing an expert is pretty amazing. I've learned some techniques and moves, but I am still not nearly as natuaral and fluid as my friend. Experts practice wkth real knives and other sharp objects; getting cut is a learning experience.
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Re: Systema
[Re: Flux]
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11/21/12 11:39 PM
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gun dog
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They make a training taser knife <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138
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Re: Systema
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11/22/12 12:39 AM
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I am a black belt in dirty and mean CQC ... break bones, joints, stab eyes, rupture balls and tear ligaments....then run like hell...!!! Scream like a banshee while doing it...!!! haha. By the way, I seriously hate you for scoring that satin NMFBM! Enjoy it!
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Re: Systema
[Re: Flux]
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11/22/12 12:45 AM
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gun dog
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Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138
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Re: Systema
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11/22/12 12:52 AM
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dman62
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I see there is a school in the Dallas area. I might check it out when we get moved down there. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Systema
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11/22/12 01:10 AM
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Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138
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Re: Systema
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11/22/12 01:40 AM
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PrimitiveEnergy
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Systema has been the new thing after the krav maga phase. You can see it in some movies such as batman and the watchman.
Alot of the russian martial arts reminds me of adaptations of japanese styles. I once read that some japanese martial arts instructors moved to russia and taught their spetsnaz.
You can see judo/jujitsu in sambo, karate in some of their stand up fighting, and aikido in systema.
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Re: Systema
[Re: PrimitiveEnergy]
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11/22/12 01:20 PM
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Systema, Krav Maga, etc., none of them compare to Ching-Ching.
I prefer to use Ching-Ching from 800 yard with a .308, just in case I miss. I'm a slow runner but a fast walker.
Remember this: Everytime I blink, you disappear.
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Re: Systema
[Re: Flux]
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11/22/12 09:00 PM
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Recently I was introduced to a friend of a friend. Somehow we got to talking about self defense, which led to me showing him my knife collection. After admiring my blades, he took out my Regulator and asked me to attack him with it. He told me to keep the cardboard on it so that I wouldn't get hurt. Thinking that I knew how to defend myself with a knife, I went for a kill move that I knew. Before I knew it, I had been taken down and the knife that I was holding was pointed at the side of my neck; I was powerless to defend myself. This is how I was introduced to Systema, a form of Russian martial arts.
He spent about an hour teaching me the basics. He demonstrated holds and takedowns that, when executed properly, would disarm any attacker. He showed me how to defend myself against knife and gun attacks. He asked me to point my pellet gun at his chest and pull the trigger. In the time that it took me to pull the trigger, the gun was pointed at my head.
Since then, he has given me a few lessons and I am currently seeking out an instructor, but am having a hard time finding one.
I encourage anyone who is interested in self defense to read up on Systema and maybe consider trying to find an instructor. Watch some videos on YouTube and other sites to see what it's all about. If anyone has any experience with Systema, I'd love to hear about it.
From Wikipedia: Systema (...;, literally meaning The System) is a Russian martial art.[1] Training includes but not limited to: hand to hand combat, grappling, knife fighting and fire arms training as well. Training involves drills and sparring without set kata. It focuses mainly on controlling the six body levers (elbows, neck, knees, waist, ankles, and shoulders) through pressure point application, striking and weapon applications. Systema is often advertised as being a martial art employed by some Russian Spetsnaz units[1][2] however, Systema teachers would say that that is a small portion of Systema. Instead of viewing Systema as a martial art, they say that Systema as a lifestyle, or a "system" which extends beyond hand-to-hand combat and covers all aspects of life. I had not heard of Systema....sounds great. I was in martial arts for a number of years when I was a teenager. I enrolled my son in MMA which is a mix of Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Judo and some Karate thrown in for good measure. WOW am I impressed with what he has learned. I will have to check into Systema. Thanks Dan
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Re: Systema
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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11/25/12 09:33 AM
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sumoj275
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Growing up in Oklahoma and wrestling from a young age all the way through gave me and many others some "life" skills in redirecting a persons advance. One thing you will notice about most Russian martial arts is that grappling is included in them all. Ever wonder why a MMA fighter doesn't want to go to the mat with a former college wrestler==they have had a lot of mat time and if they learn to work in some other modes for being on their feet it is something to be reconned with. Anyone remember Dan Severn, college national champion that fought in the early days of MMA. Lost in a finals match first time because he did not have great striking skills once he hit the mat, but the next year he won because he had learned how to punch and already knew how to keep them down. The main thing is to always know your surroundings and be ready!
Men you can't trust, women you can't trust, beasts you can't trust, but Bussekin steel you can trust
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