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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: skorpyd] #740994 01/05/13 12:59 AM
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Actually, many of the very rich find many creative ways to avoid paying taxes. Yes, in aggregate, they pay more gross taxes, but percentage wise, it's a different story, depending on the person. The uber wealthy live a rarified existence and often feel above the law and see themselves as the ruling class. There's a lot of "old money" where I am and there are some interesting stories along those lines. Funny how many of these families find their way into politics...

I prefer everyone pays their fair share, but I don't think the politics of greed, envy, and entitlement should replace the politics of independence, freedom, and self reliance.

All that aside, I can't believe that Congress has enough time to debate gun control, but not enough time to pass a budget. We elected them to do the country's business, not restrict the people's rights.


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: DogTired] #740995 01/05/13 01:43 AM
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

- Benjamin Franklin

"A free people ought to be armed."

- George Washington
Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: DogTired] #740996 01/05/13 05:06 AM
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I LOVE that ^^ DT!


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: SkunkHunter] #740997 01/05/13 04:00 PM
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I will die defending my rights rather than living with none. Come try to take mine. 8)


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: Ireash] #740998 01/06/13 05:17 AM
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Like the patch says Ireash, 1* If you're gonna risk it make it a worthy cause. and I can't think of much better than this. When one goes, the others follow like toppled dominoes.


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: SkunkHunter] #740999 01/06/13 05:05 PM
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An interesting article I thought you folks might enjoy.

December 28, 2012
Here's One Reason Why Someone Would Need To Own An 'Assault' Rifle
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Guns: The left keeps asking why anyone needs an "assault" rifle. Here's one reason — in 2010, a Texas teen used a rifle similar to the one used in Newtown to defend his younger sister and himself from home invaders.

The left quite often exposes its raging elitism through its odious habit of asking why anyone would need the things that it doesn't like, from guns to big homes to monster trucks.

The implication is that if the elitists don't want whatever it is, then no one should be allowed to have it — except, of course, it's fine for the elitists themselves to live in energy-sucking mansions, hire armed bodyguards and drive around in gas-guzzling limousines and SUVs.

When the left asks these questions it also reveals its blinding ignorance. Is there a single Democrat, dense celebrity or condescending journalist who is aware that "assault" rifles don't just define their owners as red necks but also serve as practical protection?

Actually the total amount of what they don't know about firearms and crime is enough to crush them.

Consider that, according to FBI data, in 2007, there were 453 homicides by rifle in the U.S. Yes, that's too many. But compare that number to a few other methods of homicide employed that year.

In 2007, there were 1,817 homicides committed with "knives or cutting instruments"; "blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)" killed 674; while "personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)" were the choices in 869 homicides.

The number of rifle homicides has fallen steadily since then to 323 last year, as have the other three weapon classes, though each still remains a more common choice than the rifle.

In fact, when added together, knives, blunt instruments and the human body were responsible for more than nine times as many homicides as rifles in 2011.

Yet no one is asking why anyone would want to own a set of steak knives, place a heavy candelabra on their mantle or have a hammer in their garage.

The weapon used effectively as protection by the Texas teen was neither a club nor a fist but reportedly an AR-15, a rifle on which the .223-caliber Bushmaster used in the tragic Sandy Hook shootings was modeled.

Though tagged "assault" weapons, both are merely semi-automatics, just as are many hunting rifles, and all but a handful are used legally and peacefully.

But elitists on the left don't hunt — they let someone else do their killing — so how could they know?

None of this is intended to minimize the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary or any other mass shooting.

It's simply an attempt to point out that a screaming obsession over one particular weapon used less frequently to kill than knives is driven by ignorance, arrogance and a nonexistent sense of proportion.


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: DogTired] #741000 01/07/13 02:57 AM
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Contacting politicians, even "the wrong side", works, as evidenced by what happened in IL today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bDJW97xBAE

And for the love of everything good lets all work together to end this one. Even pocket knife collectors and people who only own a bolt action rifle need to wake up and tell legislators that this is the end of gun control, because those items will be next.


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: monsterdog] #741001 01/07/13 03:07 AM
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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: SkunkHunter] #741002 01/07/13 04:32 AM
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Wow, a Chicago democrat! Not all hope is lost for the people's republic.


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: luck] #741003 01/07/13 06:15 AM
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It pwas a .massive. call in campaign from all over the U.S.


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: DogTired] #741004 01/07/13 03:10 PM
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Actually, many of the very rich find many creative ways to avoid paying taxes. Yes, in aggregate, they pay more gross taxes, but percentage wise, it's a different story, depending on the person. The uber wealthy live a rarified existence and often feel above the law and see themselves as the ruling class. There's a lot of "old money" where I am and there are some interesting stories along those lines. Funny how many of these families find their way into politics...

I prefer everyone pays their fair share, but I don't think the politics of greed, envy, and entitlement should replace the politics of independence, freedom, and self reliance.

All that aside, I can't believe that Congress has enough time to debate gun control, but not enough time to pass a budget. We elected them to do the country's business, not restrict the people's rights.
I totally agree on how Congress can't do the real job they were elected and paid to do. Maybe we should hold their pay, not pay at all like it was originally set up, and quite giving bennies when we as a people loose ours due to the President/Congress/Washingtonites "ideas".


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Re: I hope you don't like your AR or AK. [Re: sumoj275] #741005 01/07/13 06:40 PM
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I wanted to cross post this here as some of your eyes might not be on the main forum these days. Sorry for the extra static, but I feel it is important to us all, not just gun owners.

http://www.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=679358


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