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 Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/13/14 08:22 PM
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A Little Paranoia Will Keep
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Be a Sheepdog
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/13/14 08:46 PM
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A Little Paranoia Will Keep
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: lazi]
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01/13/14 09:38 PM
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i would've handled it a little differently i think.
"the city" is too broad a target and your message doesn't seem to have a goal. you want "the city" to stop doing or to do something? regardless, find out who is accountable and target them specifically. the driver, supervisor, mayor? i'd start at the bottom if you want to see something specific change. you can go to the top if you want to make a point. but treat it like any other job. figure out what it's worth to you and work the resources.
a phone call with a pleasant but direct attitude gets a lot more done than a po'd sob with a chip on his/her shoulder looking to throw anybvody and everybody under the bus. i tell folks all the time "i'm not trying to waste your time" or that "i'm not trying to screw up your day" but i most certainly will unless things go my way. and i'll do it with a whole bunch of "thank you's" and "please's". I tried the calling and emailing thing it got me no where so I am ramping it up to public shame it always seems to get results
JYD#176
"dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
"Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
"Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/13/14 10:12 PM
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this is why I didn't go through with my ptsd claim, I saw they writing on the wall.
JYD#176
"dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
"Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
"Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: greaser]
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01/13/14 11:57 PM
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lazi
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i would've handled it a little differently i think.
"the city" is too broad a target and your message doesn't seem to have a goal. you want "the city" to stop doing or to do something? regardless, find out who is accountable and target them specifically. the driver, supervisor, mayor? i'd start at the bottom if you want to see something specific change. you can go to the top if you want to make a point. but treat it like any other job. figure out what it's worth to you and work the resources.
a phone call with a pleasant but direct attitude gets a lot more done than a po'd sob with a chip on his/her shoulder looking to throw anybvody and everybody under the bus. i tell folks all the time "i'm not trying to waste your time" or that "i'm not trying to screw up your day" but i most certainly will unless things go my way. and i'll do it with a whole bunch of "thank you's" and "please's". I tried the calling and emailing thing it got me no where so I am ramping it up to public shame it always seems to get results people not answering the phone is actually a big plus when you get ready to start throwing people under the bus. take names keep times and dates, etc... i tend to get long winded and overly detailed about this stuff. the key is to bug people and rifle through the pile of "clock riders" until you find the guy who came to work to actually work. play dumb be nice and know what your goal is. keep trying until you can laugh about it.
JYD #82
yup...
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/14/14 12:06 AM
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LOL I am very bad at playing nice, but I understand where you are coming from my ire gets up and i just want to take action sometimes. I value my free time more than my work time so I find it extremely hard to sit on the phone talking to people who I most likely will dislike.
JYD#176
"dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
"Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
"Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/14/14 12:09 AM
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lazi
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if you like a challenge then this is it. i have learned to enjoy it.
JYD #82
yup...
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/14/14 12:11 AM
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lazi
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when i start calling i automatically just put the phone on speaker because i'll let it ring for something like 10 minutes. then i'll dial the next extension up or down and start asking who is at extension ### and if they came to work today?
JYD #82
yup...
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/14/14 12:14 AM
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lazi
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we will repeat the same conversation five different ways. want me off the phone? just give me what i'm asking for or find the person who can help. and believe me i will call you RIGHT back.
JYD #82
yup...
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/14/14 12:37 AM
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lol ok so I can definitely see how that could work.
JYD#176
"dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
"Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
"Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/14/14 12:57 AM
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lazi
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"i hate to bother you but please explain that to me again"
because i'm really stupid and your last explanation didn't include giving me exactly what i want.
"so, you are saying that....?"
"i'm sorry but what if..."
"well if you don't mind please tell me who..."
"i don't mean to waste your time (yes i do!) but i really need you to explain..."
i'm so pleasant they don't even realize that it's actually a standoff lol!!!!
it usually works faster than you might think. and if they want to stick to "i can't help you" thencall back tomorrow and pretend like it's a new conversation lol.. it's also amazing how you can dial up or down one number in the phone number or extension and get another department. explain the problem to a new set of ears and even though they can't do anything directly you start throwing folks under the bus and hopefully they will help you bypass those "people who didn't want to answer the phone".
JYD #82
yup...
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Re: The S4 Walking Dead DC
[Re: SkunkHunter]
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01/14/14 01:08 AM
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lazi
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plus i have found i prefer being a pleasant person over being a jerk.
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yup...
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