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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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04/22/14 07:12 PM |  
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greaserJoined:  Sep 2012 Posts: 7,098  OP Junk Yard Dog |  
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The SR shotgun is around 2500 
 JYD#176
 "dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
 "Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
 "Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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04/25/14 07:15 PM |  
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Private KlinkJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 47,627   Junk Yard Dog |  
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AWESOME!!!   
 Junk Yard Dog #1
 Moderator/Leader of the Pack
 Good night Mrs. B, wherever you are!
 Long Live the Brotherhood of the Yard!
 
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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04/25/14 10:20 PM |  
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greaserJoined:  Sep 2012 Posts: 7,098  OP Junk Yard Dog |  
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Thanks PK it has been so far. 
 JYD#176
 "dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
 "Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
 "Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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05/07/14 05:59 AM |  
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DogTiredJoined:  Apr 2010 Posts: 25,608   Junk Yard Dog |  
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2500.....peanuts?  Please don't say dollars or I'll just have to cry myself to sleep tonight... 
 JYD #126
 Super JYD #13
 
 "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
 
 - Benjamin Franklin
 
 "A free people ought to be armed."
 
 - George Washington
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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05/07/14 11:27 AM |  
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Endeavour MorseJoined:  Feb 2010 Posts: 4,889   Junk Yard Dog |  
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I can't imagine how off the balance is on that thing. I've had quite a few extended magazine shotguns, and always found them "nose heavy" and "hard to get on point quick".
 As a result, my Benelli M1 Super 90 has a 1 round extension.
 
 If I need more "firepower" I won't be grabbing a shotgun...it'll be my FN SCAR.
 
 My shotgun is for home defense against the meth-addict looking for drug money or the coyote looking at my chickens.  For anything else I'm grabbing either my 5.56 or 7.62 FN Scar.
 
 (Yes, I have both calibers and they are awesome).
 
 JYD #123  The great one formerly known as Architect.
 
 I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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05/07/14 06:28 PM |  
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gun dogJoined:  Jun 2011 Posts: 12,739   Junk Yard Dog |  
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What do you think of the scar H vs the LMT MWS .308? 
 Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138
 
 
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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05/08/14 01:36 PM |  
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Endeavour MorseJoined:  Feb 2010 Posts: 4,889   Junk Yard Dog |  
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The Scar was selected after extensive testing for issue to SOCOM.  The MWS is a specialty weapon for distance precision.
 Its like comparing a Ford Mustang to a Ford F150.  They serve really different purposes.
 
 I don't care for highly specialized rifles.  I prefer more "specialized infantry rifles".  The SCAR-H with a proper optic fits this role well, and can do most everything a "dedicated marksman's rifle" can do out to about 600 yards.
 
 Everyone likes to post pictures of 3 shot groups that are clustered into a single ragged hole.  These are bench fired clusters under ideal conditions, and frankly if you want to prove a rifle's (or your) ability show me ten FIVE shot groups.
 
 Real world use is totally different than internet hype.
 
 In applications beyond punching paper on a sunny day at the range there are many variables that make it nearly impossible to capitalize on a sniper rifle system (without having been trained as a Scout Sniper)....
 
 1) You almost never have a stable platform.  Shooting is often unexpected / snap unless sniping.
 
 2) You have no control over the weather.
 
 3) You're probably shooting from a fouled bore.  It might not just be powder residue.
 
 In the end, the SCAR has a free-floated hammer forged barrel and AR type bolt lugs.  This gives plenty of accuracy for your above average shooter.  This is especially true with a Geiselle Super Scar Trigger.  I have one in my Heavy, and will probably put one in the Light.
 
 My Scar Heavy has a Trijicon TA-11H G308 ACOG.
 My Scar Light has a Trijicon TA-31 RSR ACOG.
 
 I don't like DI systems for anything other than range toys.  In fact, I just shipped both of my Colt LE901-16S (the 308 Modular AR) to a dealer a few weeks ago.
 
 I'll keep a Colt AR, because I've continuously owned AR15s since 1984.  However, my serious go-to gun is a SCAR.
 
 JYD #123  The great one formerly known as Architect.
 
 I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: greaser]
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05/08/14 04:31 PM |  
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gun dogJoined:  Jun 2011 Posts: 12,739   Junk Yard Dog |  
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Interesting. I've debated mws vs scar for a while. What do you think about  the scars poly lower?
 I kinda thought the sp901 didn't hit the potential they claimed it would.
 
 Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138
 
 
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: DogTired]
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05/08/14 11:41 PM |  
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greaserJoined:  Sep 2012 Posts: 7,098  OP Junk Yard Dog |  
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2500.....peanuts?  Please don't say dollars or I'll just have to cry myself to sleep tonight... Yep dollars sleep well. 
 JYD#176
 "dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
 "Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
 "Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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|  Re: My kind of 12g
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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05/08/14 11:45 PM |  
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greaserJoined:  Sep 2012 Posts: 7,098  OP Junk Yard Dog |  
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I can't imagine how off the balance is on that thing. I've had quite a few extended magazine shotguns, and always found them "nose heavy" and "hard to get on point quick".
 As a result, my Benelli M1 Super 90 has a 1 round extension.
 
 If I need more "firepower" I won't be grabbing a shotgun...it'll be my FN SCAR.
 
 My shotgun is for home defense against the meth-addict looking for drug money or the coyote looking at my chickens.  For anything else I'm grabbing either my 5.56 or 7.62 FN Scar.
 
 (Yes, I have both calibers and they are awesome).
Actually Its not bad at all ballence wise. I used it for trap shooting tuesday my first time shooting at a moving target with a shootgun and managed to hit 7 out of 25, I considered it pretty good. Yep 5.56 and 7.62 are great med to long range rounds but if I am moping up an infestasion in a building I will take a shotgun any day of the week. 
 JYD#176
 "dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
 "Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
 "Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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