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In survival the most important, and the first, thing to do is build a shelter, so naturally we did.

No. In inclement weather the most important thing to do is FIND shelter, whether you build it or not.

Really? But what happens when you spend several hours wasting energy finding one? Wouldn't it have been better to have spent those hours making a simple (not to mention much quicker and smaller than ours) shelter? There is also the possibility of getting disoriented, traveling really far away from your LKP and decreasing your POD. Which is not really a good thing if you want to be found or get out of a survival situation.

In all respect, finding a shelter is much harder (not to mention relying on a little luck as well) then making a quick/decent shelter. Once you do get nice shelter it also means you can rest and sit out the storm.

I have tried finding shelter while it was raining heavily. I was lucky to find a small young pine that was in a small crevice a little ways of a road to rest. It wasn't totally dry, but I was in rain gear so it didn't really matter.

But, I guess in some areas finding a shelter is much easier than making one. However, in the NW it might not so much finding one. The best shelter that I can think of are small coniferous trees with a branch line beginning 2-3 feet off the ground. However, most of the forest here would probably be old growth and thus smaller trees will be hard to find. The smaller deciduous are also decent, but even scarcer.

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Nice debris shelter. I live in the NW and we practice these skills on a regular basis.We also practice our fire starting skills in all kinds of weather and conditions. Great to see you guys out doing the same-Thanks for sharing .

Thanks.

Looks like we live in the same neck of the woods. From whereabouts of OR?

I also love firemaking. Most of CnD and my fires have been made with a flint. Though, we, both, have gotten fires with bow-drills, and some decent smoke with hand drilling. And you probably no that making fires in the wind, snow, and rain isn't that hard, once you get the hang of it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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