I can see your point kgd as one must admit that SR77 and 101 is pretty awesome steel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. I would have been happy with a 154 LE- but will go ahead with the INFI now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. Like Jim- my JYD # got a bit tarnished when I got the Muk and I could barely read the number. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> That being said the Muk is one great knife as is the S5 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. I am probably going to strip one of my S5s- but will still add a few of the LEs to my collection. I was kind of hoping that the S5LE might renew my faith in the JYD thing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />. It is fun to see everyone excited and hope all the dawgs get what they want <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. Just my thoughts-Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />