Can't argue with those choices. BUT one of lazi's double belly kel tech shotguns would be nice. Man, 14 shots without a reload, ON A SHOTGUN!

I got to hold a Liberator pistol a few years ago. I do believe I would only want to shot it once and liberate a better weapon for use...............just like it was designed for.

I would think that the "recoil" would be a handful!

Yes sir, that is what I thought when I held it.

Here is a LONG READ (with pics <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ) about my newest SHTF carbine....

http://www.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthread...;vc=#Post465588

My SHTF or TEOTWAWKI rifle. G1 kit built on an Imbel Gear logo reciever

That is a great choice there DJ. The G1 does have some interesting history--I bet she runs like a bat out of hell.

Oh yeah! She shoots like a house afire. There were quite a few G1's came in that went from Germany to Turkey and had been beat to death. This one wasn't one of the Turkish rifles. It doesn't have matching numbers but it was beautiful inside and out when I bought the kit.
I had it built on an Imbel Gear logo reciever by Derek at AZEX.
She's a gorgeous rifle.

I guess since I sold my AR15 that mine would be my 10/22. Quiet, accurate and I can carry plenty of ammo.

10/22 is a great survival rifle. Personally, I wouldn't want to be "only armed" with a 22LR for SHTF defense, but it certainly beats throwing rocks.

I'm a firm believer in 22 rifles or handguns for general survival purposes. I've never heard a valid argument to the contrary.

I think it best to carry a centerfire rifle and keep a 22LR handgun or take-down type rifle in your ruck. The handgun could be carried on your hip for fast access (when dat tasty wabbit woefully wonders acwoss ywo paff). Otherwise, it (or a folding stock 10/22 or Marlin 70 Papoose) can ride in or on your BOB.

Arch, what do you think about the old AR7 Explorer, or the newer remakes of it? I had one back in '77 I think it was and like an idiot, got rid of it!

PLAN B

If you're a "pair of survivalists" you can distribute your load. My wife and I have this plan:

Architect = AK47 or AR15 or FAL
Architect = Ruger MkIII (22LR Handgun)

Mrs. Architect = Ruger 10/22 with Leupold Scope
Mrs. Architect = Glock 19 (9mm Handgun)

We can both defend ourselves, forage for food while armed (handguns), and hunt for food.

We can also EASILY pack over 1500 rounds of 22LR ammo between us.