I'll have to check and see if the Smith grips are the same. I am thinking about the walnut J round butt grips.

I am still trying to talk myself down from gettng them for the Red Hawk. I will probably order them when I can afford it.

Those are the Boot grips.

YUP, boot grips. I like them better than the regular ones that get really small near the butt.

The round butt looks a little longer. Closer to the stock grip length.

That's what I thought too, but I still think that I like the shorter (and hopefully fatter0 boot grips.

On mine my pinkie finger curves just over the end of the grip. Its oddly comfortable. It definately makes its a better CCW.

I should have the new pocket knife in a week or so as well.

I had a set of grips like that once and yeah they did feel good.

Probably my knife buying is on hold for a while, depending on what Dan comes up with.

I am on hold for blades. A new muk might draw me out. But I already have one soooooooo. It would ahve to be special.

The pocket knife is one I have wanted for a bit and it was a screaming deal that was a short time offer. I had to jump.

I am kinda leaning toward unloading my S5 for a 411, but I just know if I did I would regret it. I was going to get a 411 when they came out but with having two Wardogs and an S5 I figured I didn't need another one in that general size. I was wrong.