Not sure why there is all the talk about comparing the esse5 to the Trash1. They don't compare well at all. The Trash1's blade is over an inch longer and 1/4" wider. The Trash one has a high saber grind, while the esee 5's first bevel is about half way down the blade. Other then the 1/4 thick spine and 1095 steel, I dont see many similarities.