I recall...it was after seeing a picture of his hawk, I decided to check out their website. The prices of the Fort Turner hawks was great.....I figured, at that price I had nothing to loose. I am happy to report, that after some serious beating, she came through with flying colours.......and worth more than the asking price. It will ride my hip on all further trips to the wild. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />