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I almost got a Camp Tramp last year, but then the Ratweiler Chopper came out and I got it instead. It is the successor to the CT, but there are some who still think the Tramp is a better chopper. I doubt it, but there is only one way to really know .
I wouldn't be surprised if the Ratweiler and the Camp Tramp turn out to be about equal in chopping ability. The real question is, which is more comfortable for extended chopping? My guess would be the Camp Tramp for the simple reason that it has a Res-C handle. But as you said, Vic, there's only one way to really know.


I don't have the SARSquatch (....yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> ), but I do have both the Chopweiler and CT.

To me, between the Chopweiler and the CT, the Chopweiler is a better chopper and the CT is a better all-around / versatile knife while still maintaining "good" chopping abilities.


The blades are fairly similar, but the Chopweiler has about 1/2" more reach AND weighs a lot more overall. The blades are both similar in thickness. So, it mostly comes down to more weight and more reach add to slightly improved chopping for the Chopweiler.

The Res-C handle on the CT is very comfortable. While I like the Chopweiler's handle quite a lot, I still prefer the Res-C handles for chopping over the Chopweiler. The Res-C handles offer a very secure and controlled, yet versatile and tactile feel. The Chopweiler's grip allows and/or requires a little bit of a slip motion in the chopping which is sometimes good and sometimes not. I just prefer the good ol' secure Res-C. I like Res-C for Chopping. But, honestly, I am not a Chop-A-Holic like Vic. So, while I like Res-C for chopping, I don't "Have" to have Res-C for chopping. It is just different.

But, I "DO" like the "Balance", feel and general light-weight vs. excellent all-around utility of the Camp Tramp. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

On the other hand, I like the dropped point of the Chopweiler more. So, while I honestly prefer SR-101, I feel my Scrapweiler design combines what I consider some of the better features of the Chopweiler including it's blade shape and some of it's chopping power with the CT's Res-C handle, lighter weight, balance in the hand and versatility. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I think Vic and I agree though, the Chopweiler has an excellent design in the handle for chopping - even if not Res-C.

Based on Specs, I can't see the SARSquatch being a better chopper than the Chopweiler. But, it is likely in between the Chopweiler and Camp Tramp in versatility and I would guess possibly not as good a chopper as the Camp Tramp.


The SARSquatch is shorter, thinner and lighter than the Chopweiler and with more handle weight and less blade weight ("theoretically"!!!... based on specs - I don't have the SARSquatch, but I am also interested in one - possibly....

But, I don't see the SARSquatch as a better chopper alternative to my Chopweiler or even the CT. I do see the SARSquatch as a micarta handled competitor to the CT as a great all-around camp type knife. - ..... Also comparable to the Skinny Ash as both the SARSquatch and Skinny Ash have 0.187" thick blades.

While the SARSquatch looks and probably is very similar in design to the SFNO, the SFNO had .22' - .25" thick blades which would (theoretically) make the SFNO much more blade heavy and most likely more suited for chopping than the SARSquatch. But, my "guess" is that I would likely consider the balance of the SARSquatch to be slightly favorable for all-around general camp use (?????)
I do like the look of the SFNO myself... just not the price. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Compared to the SFNO, I will have to stick with and be happy with my Chopweiler. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> The Chopweiler may not be as fancy looking as the SFNO, but it is a work-horse. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

.... Truth of the matter though, I honestly find my Battle Rat followed by my DFLE to be my two favorite choppers and my favorite mid-sized knives are my CT and SJTAC - for different reasons. SJTAC is not a chopper to me, while the CT is VERY versatile. So, my Chopweiler, as much as I will never let it go, is a little lost in the shuffle... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I am basing my "Theory" of the Chopweiler and even likely the CT being better at "Chopping" over the SARSquatch on the fact that the SARSquatch's blade is only 0.187" thick vs. .24" thick on the Chopweiler; the Chopweiler has a longer blade and people are saying the SARSquatch has a very large and thick handle. Also, they both have similar full tang and micarta/G10 type handles. - All this combined "should" (Theoretically) make the Chopweiler MUCH more blade heavy than the SARSquatch.


The reason for the Chopweiler being a good chopper (IMO) is overall weight and reach. It has good weight distribution, but a different feel than the CT. I think the over-all weight is what give the nudge advantage to the Chopweiler in chopping. The extra weight just adds a little more oomph power to each swing.

The reason for the CT being good at chopping is weight distribution and speed with reasonable power and control. It doesn't have the over-all mass of the Chopweiler, but it is more blade heavy via ratio. So, while it is faster and nimble in the hand than the Chopweiler, the CT is still able to deliver pretty decent power to the blade. But, the CT is lighter and faster. So, the CT is EASILY better than the Chopweiler for limbing and palmettos (IMO).

But...., the Battle Rat and DFLE are both better at chopping AND limbing than either the Chopweiler or CT.

On the other hand, the CT is more versatile for other chores than chopping than the Battle Rat or DFLE.


SFNO……………………….= ??.? ounces; .22” - .25” thick; 7.0” blade, 13.1” oal (est.)

**** I can't find the weight on the SFNO anywhere

SARSquatch………… = 17.0 ounces; .1875” thick; 7.0” blade; 12.75” oal

Yard Guard..............= 16.0 ounces; .277" thick; 7.25" blade; 12.4" oal
Camp Tramp............= 14.5 ounces; .236" thick; 7.325" blade; 12.5" oal
Ratweiler (orig.)……. = 20.1 ounces; .25” thick; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
Chopweiler - Micarta = 19.1 ounces; .25” thick; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal
Chopweiler – G10….. = 20.5 ounces; .25” thick; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal



With the SARSquatch's, specs, I consider it a good candidate for a versatile camp knife and I think it should compare more to the Skinny Ash. But, I honestly can't see the SARSquatch comparing to the Chopweiler and not likely well with the CT for chopping.

In any event, I am always interested and look forward to Vic's Chop-Off's. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Last edited by KnifeGuy; 06/17/08 05:09 PM.

JYD #39 I prefer "SATIN" blades!!!