Ahh, but IMHO the Mud Puppy looks nothing like the Warden, whereas the Yard Keeper (and Howler for that matter) look like larger Game Wardens to me. And no worries and far as the edge, I know my way around a sharpening stone. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I usually put a 15/30 deg angle on my knives, I have a 120 grit DMT stone which just EATS metal, and then I will hit it up with the sandpaper, 220 though 1000 grit. Then strop to a mirror polish, takes about 15-20 mins freehand. I wish I had Horn Dogs skill with the sander, I could save some time! But I destroyed the tips on 5 different knives using it, so I guess its just not my thing :P.