OK! What I have learned......SS4 is WAY bigger than I thought, overall is longer than the YKLE! And WOW are the resc handles light! I was really surprised by that. Initially I wasn't going to keep either, the SS4 because its too big for edc, which is why I got it, and the YKLE was gonna go since I prefer a finger choil <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> The SS4 is gone now, but I decided to fix the problem with the YKLE, and open the choil on it. Now it RULES! I'm having a hard time getting a shaving edge on the knife though? I'm not sure if its the thick grind, (I ground it down quite a bit) or if I;m not used to SR-77 yet.